Difference Between Waterless Washing and Quick Detailing??

[Marc08EX]

Hi everyone,

What's the difference between waterless washing and quick detailing? It seems both of them use a spray and wipe type of product...

[bodavenport]

The waterless washing products have a lot more (double or triple) the polymers and other cleaning agents designed to "lift" the dirt off the surface. So the waterless is designed for slightly "dirtier" cars. They are still not a replacement for traditional washes, including rinseless washes like ONR

[Shawn T.]

The waterless washing products have a lot more (double or triple) the polymers and other cleaning agents designed to "lift" the dirt off the surface. So the waterless is designed for slightly "dirtier" cars. They are still not a replacement for traditional washes, including rinseless washes like ONR

I have to disagree. Waterless washing can replace traditional washing methods. Technology has come very far and it is possible to wash a very dirty car waterless.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO6PYq6exeQ]YouTube - Filthy black SUV cleaned with Aquanil-X waterless car wash!![/video]

[Marc08EX]

Thanks for the info guys. So will this replace quick detailers? I don't see the point of quick detailers now that waterless washes are available. It seems like the waterless wash products are quik detailers on steroids right?

[Emm]

IMO quick detailers leave a better shine/gloss then waterless washes. I use both and when it's just dusty I use a QD, or while I'm drying I use a QD.

[bodavenport]

I have used Aquanil-x and could not get a streak free finish, I tried numerous times and watched Frank's videos many times thinking I was doing something wrong (which I probably was), I personally think that the ultima waterless is much better

[Mike Phillips]

From my article list...

The difference between a Normal Car Wash, a Waterless Car Wash, a Rinseless Car Wash and a Spray Detailer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23645-difference-between-normal-car-wash-waterless-car-wash-rinseless-car-wash-spray-detailer.html)

There are 4 popular approaches to washing and cleaning cars, below are descriptions of the four different approaches followed with the products that can be used for the different approaches.


Normal Car Wash
A normal car wash is simply the more traditional method of dragging out the water hose, filling a bucket with water, adding the soap then spraying the car down with water, then washing the car and then going back to the water hose to rinse the suds off and then repeating this over the rest of the car before the section you just washed has a chance to dry possibly causing water spots. This system works well but it also uses a lot of water and in some areas it may not be allowed.


Waterless Car Wash
A waterless car wash is where you use a high lubricity pre-mixed spray detailer to heavily saturate a panel and then carefully wipe any dirt or road grime off to a dry shine. The key to working safely with a waterless car wash is to use plenty of clean, microfiber polishing towels and after using all 8 sides of a microfiber towel, quit using the microfiber towel and switch to a new, clean microfiber polishing towel so you don't simply transfer dirt removed from one panel to another panel.


Rinseless Car Wash
A rinseless car wash is kind of a cross between a normal car wash and a waterless car wash. Like a normal car wash, you’re still going to use water, but only a couple of gallons. Like a waterless wash, instead of rinsing your wash solution off, you’ll work panel by panel and wipe each panel to a dry shine using microfiber drying towels like the Water Guzzler. With a Rinseless Wash, you’ll use dramatically less water but still be flushing the panel with plenty of high lubricity wash solution to leave behind a scratch-free finish.


Spray Detailer
Spray Detailers are for removing, Light Dust, Fingerprints, Smudges and most can also be used as a clay lubricant. Light dust is a light accumulation of airborne dust and contaminants that have landed primarily on horizontal surfaces and have not in any way bonded to the paint.

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[Mike Phillips]

Autogeek's Selection of Car Washing and Cleaning Products


Normal Car Washes
Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo 16 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/pinbodsham.html)
DP Auto Bath Shampoo 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/dp300.html)
DP Xtreme Foam Formula Auto Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/foam-gun-soap.html)
Wolfgang Auto Bathe (http://www.autogeek.net/wg1000.html)
Pinnacle XMT Gel Shampoo & Conditioner (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-shampoo-conditioner.html)
3M Car Wash Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/3mcarwassham.html)
Dodo Juice Sour Power Gloss Enhancing Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-car-wash.html)
Dodo Juice Supernatural Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/supernatural-car-wash.html)
Duragloss Car Wash Concentrate (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-car-wash-concentrate.html)
1Z Einszett Perls Shampoo Premium Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/1z-einzett-perls-shampoo.html)
Step 3 Finish Kare 118 Super Concentrated Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-118-shampoo.html)
Griot's Garage Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-car-wash.html)
Liquid Glass Wash Concentrate (http://www.autogeek.net/liqglaswas.html)
Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-wash-wax.html)
Mirror Glaze M6201 Carwash Shampoo & Conditioner (http://www.autogeek.net/mecashco.html)
Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo & Conditioner (http://www.autogeek.net/mg7164.html)
Meguiars NXT Generation Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/18ozmenxtgec.html)
Meguiar’s Shampoo Plus (http://Meguiar’s Shampoo Plus)
Meguiars Hyper-Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiar-s-hyper-wash.html)
Mothers California Gold Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/motcalgolcar1.html)
Optimum Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-car-wash.html)
P21S Bodywork Conditioning Shampoo (http://www.autogeek.net/p2bodconsham.html)
Poorboy's World Super Slick & Suds Concentrated Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/pbss32.html)
Ultima Paint Guard Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-car-wash.html)


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[Mike Phillips]

RTU = Ready To Use

Waterless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Waterless Auto Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/waterless-auto-wash.html) - RTU
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html) - 6-8 ounces per gallon
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw16.html) - RTU
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash.html) - RTU
Last Touch Spray Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiar-s-last-touch-spray.html) - RTU
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html) 8 ounces per gallon

Note: There is no official recommendation from Meguiar's to use Last Touch as a Waterless Car Wash but this is a high lubricity spray detailer that can be diluted 1:1 for a clay lube. For the opposite reason you can dilute it for a clay lube, (that is when used straight it's too slippery for a clay lube), it can be used as a waterless car wash as this product is sold in Australia as a waterless wash (http://tinyurl.com/y9vufuy).




Rinseless Washes
Detailer’s Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html) 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html) - 1 ounce for 2 gallons of water



Spray Detailers
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pincrysmis.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pin32164oz.html)
Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detail Spray - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/crysmis1gal.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/64-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/128-wg-instant-detail-spritz.html)
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 32 ounce (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html)
Detailer's Pride Rinseless Wash & Gloss - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/dpforiwash12.html)
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-final-gloss-detailer.html)
Detailer’s Pride Final Gloss™ Quick Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-final-gloss-gallon.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer - 12 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detail-spray.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 64 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-64.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Detail Spray - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detailer-128.html)
Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-drying-detailer.html)
Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/dodo-juice-sealant-detailer.html)
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-fast-clean-shine-detail-spray.html)
Duragloss Marine & RV Detail Spray #521 - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-marine---rv-detail-spray--521.html)
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-speed-shine-detailer.html)
Griot's Garage Speed Shine Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-speed-shine-gallon.html)
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 35 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash.html)
Griot's Garage Waterless Spray-On Car Wash - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-waterless-wash-128.html)
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-425-detailer.html)
Finish Kare 425 Extra Slick Final Body Shine - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-425-body-shine.html)
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 31 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-antistatic-detailer.html)
Finish Kare Anti Static Poly Wipe Finish Restorer Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-antistatic-detailer-128oz.html)
Liquid Glass Detail Spray - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/liquid-glass-detail-spray.html)
Mothers California Gold Showtime Instant Detailer - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/motcalgolind.html)
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-quik-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meg34finin.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #34 Final Inspection - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/1gallonrefill2.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-135-synthetic-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #135 Synthetic Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-gallon-spray-detailer-135.html)
Meguiars NXT Generation Speed Detailer - 24 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/mg13224.html)
Meguiars Flagship Ultimate Boat Detailer - 24 Ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-flagship-ultimate-boat-detailer.html)
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #52 Quik Clean Mist & Wipe - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-quik-clean-52.html)
Meguiar's D15501 Last Touch Spray Detailer - 1 gallon (http://.autogeek.net/meguiar-s-last-touch-spray.html)
Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer - 17 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-instant-detailer-17oz.html)
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg16.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg32.html)
Poorboy’s World Spray & Gloss - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsg128.html)
Poorboy's World Spray & Wipe Waterless Wash - 16 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw16.html)
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 32 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw32.html)
Poorboy's World Waterless Wash - 1 gallon (http://www.autogeek.net/pbsaw128.html)
S100 Special Surfaces Cleaner - 10 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/s100-special-surfaces.html)
Ultima Detail Spray Plus - 22 ounces (http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-quick-detailer.html)
Pinnacle XMT Final Finish Instant Detailer (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-final-finish-detail-spray.html)


Note: While spray detailers are first and foremost positioned as products for removing light dust, if used wet or heavy and with good technique, that can substitute for a high lubricity waterless wash. Use your own judgment.


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[Mike Phillips]

Show Car Garage Video: How To Use A Rinseless Car Wash (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-videos/24335-show-car-garage-video-how-use-rinseless-car-wash.html)

Part 1 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash[/CENTER]

- Part 1 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash to wash your car



Part 2 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash

- Part 2 - How to use a Rinseless Car Wash to wash your car



Reasons to use a Rinseless Wash
In a perfect world everyone would have access to free flowing water, warm temperatures, no restrictions on when and where they can wash their car etc.

The problem is we don't live in a perfect world and not everyone has access to free flowing water or has the ability to use free flowing water due to water restrictions.

Here's a list of some reasons for using a Rinseless Wash....

Areas with government enforced water restrictions
In today’s reality, there are many cities and even entire countries with Government Enforced Water Restrictions. In these places it’s against laws and/or regulations to wash your car with a free flowing source of water.

Geographical areas of drought
In some places there may be no official restrictions against water use but the geographical area itself is experiencing severe drought and self-compliance as well as common sense prevents people from using a free flowing source of water to wash their vehicles.

People who live in Apartments
In some areas if you live in an Apartment, a Condo or a Townhouse, there may be no place to wash your car with a free flowing source of clean water or their may be rules against it that you have agreed to comply with.

Washing in cold winter months
In cold weather, extreme low temperatures can make washing a car with a free flowing source of water dangerous and difficult at best.


Mobil Detailers
Rinseless Washing enables mobile detailers to get their customer’s car clean without having to depend upon a water source on location or the extra hassle of transporting hundreds of gallons of water in their Truck, Van or on a Trailer. Besides that some areas require mobile detailers to contain and capture their run-off water and this is an added expense, somewhat difficult as well as time consuming.


Anytime you’re traveling
If you doing any long distance traveling, Rinseless Washing enables you to wash your car while in route.



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[Old Tiger]

Thanks for the info guys. So will this replace quick detailers? I don't see the point of quick detailers now that waterless washes are available. It seems like the waterless wash products are quik detailers on steroids right?
You are right IMO! I foolllow up WW with a Spray wax, usuallyy Pinnacle. Results in more gloss & better protection than a QD IMO!

[BobbyG]

Are there any more questions? :props:

Thanks Mike!

[RobZ71LM7]

I've sorta replaced quick detailers with waterless car wash and quik waxes/sealant sprays. I bought the gallon jug of DP Waterless to use as a QD on steroids to remove dirt, dust and day to day grime that attacks the paint between washes. I also use it after polishing steps or if I'm going to apply an LSP and the surface has sat long enough to have picked up some dust or dirt. I feel more comfortable that a waterless wash is better protecting and lubcricating the surface during dirt removal. I do suspect that they're harder on an LSP than say QD sprays.

I'm using spray wax or spray sealer (depending upon the car's LSP) after conventional washes when I don't need to re-wax just yet but want to boost shine and protection. For example: on my Blackfire Wet Diamond sealed cars I follow with BF Sealant spray and on the waxed cars something along the lines of Ultimate Quik Wax or Pinnacle Souveran spray wax.

[jimmyjam]

I use Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer and it works wonders, even the black plastic looks shiny as if a coat of wax was applied. Now if Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer works and smells that good, I must try ONR!!!

[Old Tiger]

I use Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer and it works wonders, even the black plastic looks shiny as if a coat of wax was applied. Now if Optimum Instant Detailer & Gloss Enhancer works and smells that good, I must try ONR!!!
Buy a gallon. You will love it!