You California and Florida guys...pay attention

[silverfox]

I’ve seen some product reviews on here regarding rinse-less wash products, and frankly guys...they all make me laugh. You call those dirty cars? Well, pay attention, especially you fair weather guys, and be prepared to be blown away.

Location - western NY state.
Weather - snowed a few inches each day for a solid week...weather broke for one sunny day.It was 3o degrees when these pics were taken.
Temperature - 30 degrees in garage, 35 degees in the sunshine (all 10 minutes of it)
Car - daily driver, 2011 Camaro (bad ass beast)
Paint Protection - Collinite #915 applied first week in November - no wax since.
Products used in this review - DP Rinseless wash, Optimum Opti-Mitt, Meg’s Ultimate Quick Detailer, Cobra HD Guzzler drying towel.

The car’s wheel wells and sides were basically covered with salt and road grime - see picture below of my wife’s car which sits in the same garage. Notice the crap and grime on the floor in the empty bay where I washed the Camaro. It took only 2.5 gallons to do the rinse-less wash. I mixed 1.5 oz, of DP Rinseless wash with 1,5 gallons of very warm water. I also mixed 1 oz of DP Rinseless wash with 1 gallon of water in a garden pressure sprayer and I sprayed the entire car first with the solution in the sprayer...and let it sit a few minutes.

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Now here is where the Camaro was washed:






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Products used:
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I then started to wash the car starting with all the horizontal areas. I used the classic two bucket method of washing and did ALL the horizontal areas before I did any drying. I, frequently re-plenished and rinsed the Opti-Mitt.

I then proceeded to dry all the horizontal surfaces with a $15 leaf blower from Sears. The DP rinseless wash just flew off the paint. I proceeded to wash and dry the vertical side panels last in the same fashion. I then dried whatever water was left with ONE Cobra HD Guzzler drying towel. The combination of drying the car with a leaf blower and one HD guzzler is a killer combination.

Now this is no BS...I dried the entire car using this procedure with one (1) HD Guzzler towel...and it was barely damp when I finished. I did not require anything else to dry the car. One HD Guzzler was all it needed. Like I said...the water just blew off the paint when I applied the air with the leaf blower. I think the DP Rinseless wash, coupled with the Collinite had a lot to do with that. Nothing sticks to the paint...not even road salt.

Finished car - nice and clean - notice the reflections
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When I finished drying the car, I applied Meg’s Ultimate Quick Detailer with one MF towel. I have to say this right now...don’t walk...RUN, and get the new Meg’s Ultimate Quick Detailer. Its a phenomenal product. I applied that stuff in 30 degree weather, and it went on like it was a warm, sunny, Florida afternoon.

If I can achieve results like this in snowy, cold, western NY, imagine what you can do in “normal weather” conditions. I used only 1.5 gallons of DP in the bucket, and 1 gallon of DP in a garden pressure sprayer for a total of 2.5 gallons of solution. I did the entire process in the garage, and only took the car outside to shoot the “after” pictures.

More "after" pictures
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Mmmmmmmm...



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I will never wash a car using the conventional way ever again. I have long since put my foam gun back in the box, and frankly, I’m now a rinseless wash believer. Let me say one more thing about the products I used:

1) DP Rinseless wash - an amazing product
2) Optimum Opti-Mitt - great product, but it has already ripped after 3 uses
3) Meg’s Ultimate Quick Detailer - I’m speechless - works at 30 degrees like it was 70, and leaves a beautiful, mirror like finish. It gets easier with each application.
4) Cobra HD Guzzler drying towel - get one or two
5) Collinite car waxes - especially in the Northeast. They simply work, and even road salt comes right off like it was nothing.

These products have made my life so much easier and I thank everyone at AutoGeek and the guys on this forum for your reviews and comments as I would never have known about these great products otherwise.

[rwright]

I would like to see close up pictures of the paint before and after in the sun or with some other light source. I'm not taking away from your work at all, so please don't think that. There was another forum member that posted results of washing a car in the same manner but it induced swirls.

*Edit - Here's the article I was speaking of: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/30629-my-onr-fuzion-experience.html

[jlb85]

MAD PROPS for working in the cold!!! You gotta love seeing snow in reflection shots :D

[DARK HORSE]

I agree with Richard, I'm not trying to take away from your work either, but I am curious why there are no before pictures of the car you washed (only the one you didn't wash)? I would like to have seen some before, during, and then after shots. I too would like to have seen some close up before/after sun shots, or at least some other light source pictures. This would allow the true condition of the paint to be seen.

[Dubbin1]

I would like to see close up pictures of the paint before and after in the sun or with some other light source. I'm not taking away from your work at all, so please don't think that. There was another forum member that posted results of washing a car in the same manner but it induced swirls.

*Edit - Here's the article I was speaking of: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/30629-my-onr-fuzion-experience.html

:iagree:

If that Camaro looked anything like the wifes car then it is full of marring from the rinseless wash. Speaking of what it looked like why are there no before pictures?

[Dr Oldz]

I'm from NE PA and I have similar conditions here.....No way am I using a rinseless system now...... The closest I'll come is putting some DP RWG or ONR in my normal 2 bucket wash method to soften the water and add a bit extra lube! I'd say for certain that you are marring your paint with the car driven in those conditions! It may look good after only doing it once but try it a few more times and you'll be :buffing:

[SeaJay's]

I certainly hope you rinsed that car off with a pressure washer before doing the rinseless. If it looked anything like your wifes car then that thing was nasty.

I live in MA and we see bad winter roads with salt and sand. I actually run a hose from my utility sink to my pressure washer outside and spray off my truck prior to doing any rinseless washes. If it's as bad as your wife's car I would even do a quick spray down with an APC and let that dwell before I spray it off. Of course it can't be below freezing when I do it. So, it's all dependent on weather. Of course as soon as the weather breaks where I can wash my truck, as soon as I leave my drive way it's dirty again. I HATE WINTER!!!

[IID]

Looks Good silverfox :props:.
I hear ya with salt/road grim covered roads,they stink.
I have had good luck with the rinseless washes as well.I have some DP Rinseless Wash that works just as good as ONR (IMO) for cleaning and NOT inducing swirls.

Here are a few of pic's after a cleaning with ONR:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=729

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=732

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=130&pictureid=731


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I am a true fan of the rinsless for moderate/light dirty vehicles and the waterless for the light dirty vehicles.

(BTW,these were pic's from another thread I started for ONR)

[Joe in PA]

Silverfox the Camaro looks great!

Having to deal with similar weather conditions, I too really appreciate the availability of the no rinse washes. Some folks will never be willing to give props to others who do things a little differently but if it works for you, rock on brother! Thanks for taking the time to post up your experiences for all to see. :xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Results look awesome!

I have not seen this color on the Camaro till your post...

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That's nice color for that body style...


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[BobbyG]

I think you formulated a success plan that worked out very well! :props:

The two step approach you used is similar to what I had envisioned.

Spraying down the area with the same solution prior to washing is very important. By wetting the panel it allows the solution to dissolve and lift many of the road borne salt and contaminates. Letting this sit then following it up with the wash mitt and rinse-less solution literally floats everything off the waxed surface.

Nice writeup and photos! :props:

[david79z28]

Nice job!! What, no Adam's products? Are you going to post this at camaro5???

[bimmer325!]

really like the fake snow.....

[aerogt01]

Looking good! I'm glad you found a process that works. I might have to try that when my DP RW&G comes in.


really like the fake snow.....

Umm. . . There isn't anything fake about that snow. . .:bolt:

[jlb85]

some more fake snow :D

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