Interesting results from new Meguiar's Microfiber DA Correction System

[Mike Phillips]

I was out in the studio working on a project and after the project was over I tested out the new Meguiar's DA Compound and DA Polish/Wax to a Type II Bird Dropping which is where the paint has wrinkled.


In this thread,

Two Types of Bird Dropping Etchings (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24924-two-types-bird-dropping-etchings.html)


There's a picture of a Type II Bird Dropping Etching and the cracks where the paint has wrinkled were white from polish and/or wax residue getting stuck and drying. This draws your eyes to the bird dropping etching.

I used the Flex 3401 with the new Microfiber Compound and then the new Microfiber Polish/Wax using the matching Microfiber pads over the affected area and not only did it remove the old polish and wax but after wiping off the new polish/wax it left the cracks in the wrinkled paint clear and made the affected area disappear unless you knew where to look...


Here's before, note how white the cracks are...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/719/BirdDroppingEtchingWrinkles.jpg



Here's after,
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/835/BirdDroppingEtchingDisappears01.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/835/BirdDroppingEtchingDisappears02.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/835/BirdDroppingEtchingDisappears03.jpg



Part of the reason it's now clear is the abrading action of the compound further reduced the depth of the cracks and fissures caused by the etching.

Another reason is the new Meguiar's compound removed the old dried wax residue via the abrading action between the microfiber pad and the compound.

One more reason could be that the polish/wax is a very clear product after application, drying and wipe-off. It's common for waxes and paint sealants to turn whitish or opaque after they dry. Some products don't and this is more true for wipe-on, wipe-off products that don't dry.

I let the polish/wax fully dry before wiping it off and then a day later, (today), I took the above pictures and so far the wrinkled etching is staying clear and a LOT more un-noticeable.

I'll watch it over the next few weeks and see if the whiteness re-appears...


The good news is the bird dropping etching is for the most part invisible to the eyes instead of an eyesore...


:)

[BobbyG]

Those results are certainly impressive Mike, boy that's some pretty strong...a...poop?! :props:

Would wet sanding the area first give slightly improved results?

[Mike Phillips]

Would wet sanding the area first give slightly improved results?

Yes, definitely.

A person has to be very careful when working on bird dropping etching like these because the cracks or fissures where the paint has wrinkled can vary in depth.

The risk is to try to keep improving the area by sanding and or buffing more and more and then whoops! you go through the clear and expose the basecoat.

That's why it's a little dangerous and risky to try to remove 100% a Type II Bird Dropping Etching, especially if the car does not below to you.


:)

[C. Charles Hahn]

This just makes me want that new system that much more, Mike. All this teasing and no official word from Meguiar's about the system or its release/availability date is killing me!


Just curious, but would an electronic PTG like the Posi-Test you guys sell be sensitive enough to measure the depth of a Type-II Etch like that? I haven't come across one since acquiring my Cen-Tech PTG to try it with.

If measuring the wrinkles would work, that could come in very handy and maybe even make 100% removal of the etch possible if there was enough clear there to play with....

[Mike Phillips]

This just makes me want that new system that much more, Mike. All this teasing and no official word from Meguiar's about the system or its release/availability date is killing me!



The new system is supposed to launch in this month, (December), or January, I spoke with Jason Rose just yesterday and that was the time frame he gave me. This is not in concrete yet so no hard dates.

I have the production compound, polish/wax and microfiber pads and they work better than the previous versions I've used and I'm confident that most people are going to be blown away with what can be done using "microfiber" pads and the technology behind the new compound and polish/wax and especially using only a DA Polisher.

It's going to enable people brand new to machine polishing, people with no experience or learned skill, to get the kind of show car results that have been reserved pretty much only to Pro's with years and even decades of experience using all kinds of pads, products and tools.


There are other cool new products being made for DA Polishers that we'll see introduced into the future...

Exciting times to be a car guy or car gal...




Just curious, but would an electronic PTG like the Posi-Test you guys sell be sensitive enough to measure the depth of a Type-II Etch like that? I haven't come across one since acquiring my Cen-Tech PTG to try it with.

If measuring the wrinkles would work, that could come in very handy and maybe even make 100% removal of the etch possible if there was enough clear there to play with....


I'm not sure how one would go about testing the depth of the etchings, or fissures caused by the wrinkling...

I try to keep things simple, in this case I didn't want to sand as I don't need the risk of buying a paint job so I just compounded and polished and stopped.


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