BuffPro Polisher

[SeaJay's]

I'm part of another forum run by Renny Doyle at Attention to Details. He might actually be part of this forum too, I actually think I came across his info in a thread here.

Anyway, I'm part of his newsletter that goes out on occasion and he tested out the BuffPro polisher at SEMA and he has a small write up on it and seems to like it. He doesn't write much about his actual opinion of it but does mention that "I am all over this new polisher".

I'm curious to see if anyone that attended SEMA had a chance to check these out? Their price tag is ridiculous for the polisher and the pads ($600 for polisher and $40 a pad/roller). Considering there are way better polishers out there for way less why would anyone even consider this?

I'm interested in your thoughts and comments. I didn't put a link up here since it's to another site and didn't want to have to remove it. You can Google BuffPro to find it.

Just want to state that I am no way affiliated with this company and am in no way promoting this item. Just wanted to see your thoughts.

[C. Charles Hahn]

Looks like an interesting concept.... but from what I see it's just a rotary polisher being operated on its side. This was impressive though (if it's not a load of BS, that is):

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwH0jG4gsuM&feature=related]YouTube - BuffPro PowerPad - Polish 1500 wet sanding[/video]

[Mike Phillips]

See this thread...

Mystery Machine (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/29929-mystery-machine.html)


In this thread, if you look at the front of the hood that's already sanded and buffed, I did that with the BuffPro Polisher...


New: 1-Pad Polishing System from Lake Country (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/new-car-care-products/29904-new-1-pad-polishing-system-lake-country-2.html)

The part towards the front of the car that's squared off...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/957/1padtest02.jpg



Here's some pictures from my Facebook Page

Sanded with #1500 Unigrit Sanding Discs and buffed with the BuffPro using M105

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs416.ash2/69475_160911860609527_160604287306951_354146_17963 55_n.jpg


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs004.ash2/33550_160950180605695_160604287306951_354503_73369 8_n.jpg



Interesting tool... and it is a rotary buffer turned on it's side... I love it when people think outside the box and invent. The inventor was here at our Studio also and told me how he came up with the idea for the design, it was very interesting.


My observations and recommendations for the tool was to target it at the Boat building, finishing and detailing industries as well as anything large, like Motorhomes...

It can be used to detail cars but you would have to try it out yourself and make up your own mind. One of the guys behind the introduction of this new tool attended on of our classes here and that's how we met.


It's great to make friends in this industry...

:dblthumb2:

[C. Charles Hahn]

So Mike, I'm curious: did M105 exhibit the same short working time issues with the BuffPro that people complain of with other traditional buffing systems?

Your pics back up what they show in the video... certainly not BS!

[SeaJay's]

Yeah it seems like it would be hard to use this thing on any tight spaces since it's so big. Definitely can see where it would be useful for motor homes or large boats with a lot of surface area to work.

[catfish07]

I have purchased the Buffpro and have used it a lot. I feel it has cut the time down almost in half. It's big for sure but you would be amazed at what you can do with this machine.. some of the small areas I will use the PC instead but it does a great job on the larger sections of the vehicle. I am a realist though. From my experience, this machine is amazing. (also can do a set of nasty headlights in 4 minutes flat.. believe it). I feel it will never be endorsed by any celebrity detailers (but they will probably still use it) because when you buy a Makita, dewalt, PC or Flex.... you have a huge amount of accessories that you can purchase to use with it. This means $$ for the retailer. Make no mistake, I completely get it. The Buffpro has a $40 polishing pad, you can do (as i have) about 90% of your detailing jobs out there. Nobody is earning money from me by selling me pads. This is why I suspect nobody will endorse it and few will sell it. I am fine with this though, I enjoy the Buffpro and believe it's a great product. :xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

The downfall of the BuffPro was that after buffing with it there's a haze left in the paint. When the inventor/seller came to Autogeek we tested it out on the black rental car they were driving, here's some pictures of that car...



Tunnel Car Wash Brush Scratches (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/29958-tunnel-car-wash-brush-scratches.html)


We used a rental car yesterday for some product testing and while the car was here and before we did any testing I took a few pictures of the horrendous scratches throughout the entire finish caused by a brush type automatic car wash.


Look around the reflected overhead light in the center of the car hood, you can see fine line scratches running in the direction of front to back, these are the type of scratches you'll commonly see in the paint of rental cars that are repeatedly run through brush style tunnel car washes.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/CarWashScratches01.jpg



Here's some close up shots... keep in mind even the sides of the car had these same scratches evenly inflicted throughout all the panels.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/CarWashScratches02.jpg



After compounding and polishing the hood of this car I pointed out the haze in the paint and they agreed on dark colors the haze would need to be removed using something like a DA Polisher.

Actually, if a tool/process is leaving a haze that you can see on a dark colored clearcoated car, it's also leaving it on a light colored car your eyes just can't see it.

Leaving a haze isn't a problem, as long as it either doesn't matter to your target market or you're willing to do a follow-up step to remove the haze to get the paint to the quality finish you and/or your customer expects. It's also possible with more practice, new/different pads or products you could perfect the results. I only used it on two different cars and that's not a lot of behind the wheel time.


I'll stick to what I posted about it and that is I think it would be good for large, white things like boats, motorhomes, etc.

It's definitely a tool a person should use before formulating an opinion and in my case that's what I did and I would recommend that if a person has a chance to check it out then go for it...

Just like Coke and Pepsi, some people will like one type of tool while others will prefer a different type.


:)