new car glaze vs show car glaze meguiars

[Rick434]

whats the difference between these two products?

[Mike Phillips]

Both are non-abrasive or pure polishes.

M05 dries fast and dries powdery white and was/is intended for high humidity production environments, mostly body shops, dealerships and detailers. It came out in the 1950's so the name was originally used as it implied for use on new cars in the 1950's which would have been acrylic lacquer paints.

M07 is a very wet product and doesn't really dry, so it's the opposite of M05. It contains the richest concentration of polishing oils out of any paint related polish from Meguiar's.


Check out these two threads...

Some Vintage Meguiar's Products from my Collection (Lots of pictures) (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/24271-some-vintage-meguiar-s-products-my-collection-lots-pictures.html)

The Secret to Removing Oxidation and Restoring a Show Car Finish to Antique Single Stage Paints (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html)



:)

[Rick434]

so they basically achieve the same results as one another, just one is made for applying in a high humidity atmosphere?

[truckbutt]

From what I have read on this forum, Show Car Glaze is a new and improved version of New Car Glaze. They are both primarily designed for single stage paints without a clearcoat. In order for them to be absorbed, there must be a porous layer for them to be absorbed into. A new clearcoat will not absorb these and they will basically sit on top of the clearcoat, providing little benefit. As the car ages and the clearcoat becomes more porous, they may be more useful.
A quote from Mike Phillips: "This product is primarily beneficial to single stage paints because it will penetrate into the paint where the unique polishing oils will do their magic. Clear coats are so tight in their physical make-up that no chemicals readily penetrated into them unless they are etching or eating into them.

The oils bring out the full richness of color of a pigmented paint, it's the beauty factor that you either get you you don't get.

It's not a wax so not only does it not need to dry, it shouldn't be allowed to dry, you simply apply, work in and then remove. A thin coat removes easiest as it is quite oily so you really only need to apply enough to work a section so as to make removal easier."

Someone please correct me if I've summarized incorrectly.

[Mike Phillips]

so they basically achieve the same results as one another, just one is made for applying in a high humidity atmosphere?

More or less... depends on how D.O. you want to get...

M05 dries white, that's not clear.
M07 dries clear

If you were wanting a non-abrasive polish to maximize the depth, clarity and gloss, then you would want a product that is clear, not opaque or white.






From what I have read on this forum, Show Car Glaze is a new and improved version of New Car Glaze.



That to my knowledge is incorrect. I've written on the other topics you've brought up but I'm only going to address the first portion...

I've been told by the head chemist at Meguiar's that he's never touched that formula and it's been unchanged since it's inception. That would put that formula date back to the early 1900's, between 1901 and probably 1920, I don't have an exact year, I don't know anyone that does know the exact year, not even Barry Meguiar's because I've asked him before as well as Ken Meguiar and neither new they exact year.

M05 came out in the 1950's as state previously.

The link I included above both have pictures of bottles and my best guess as to the origin of M07 and everything I wrote implies early 1900's


I've never heard or read anywhere where someone that would actually know has said M07 is new and/or improved.

The label was changed as I've also documented, but not the formula.

If you really want to have a good understanding of these two products, or their cousins, then get real-world hands on experience by adding them to your tool chest.


M03 Machine Glaze (http://www.autogeek.net/mg03.html)
M05 New Car Glaze (http://www.autogeek.net/menewcargl5.html)
M07 Show Car Glaze (http://www.autogeek.net/meg7showcarg.html)
M81 Hand Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/meghanpol.html)
Deep Crystal Polish - (Autogeek does not carry Deep Crystal Polish)




Hope this helps...


:xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Wrote this article recently, it's on topic for this thread...

Body Shop Safe Glaze on Fresh Paint - #7 Show Car Glaze (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/28659-body-shop-safe-glaze-fresh-paint-7-show-car-glaze.html)



:)