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newb001
09-28-2010, 10:59 AM
Can anyone tell me what the longest lasting sealant or wax is (that can be applied by hand)?

I'm only able to do a 'real' cleaning/waxing, etc... once a year, and want the most durable, long-lasting product I can find.

Have any 'official' tests been done which show that 6 months later (for example), products A, B and C were still going strong while X, Y and Z were not... I've read through several topics comparing products, but most talk about the look of the finished product, not the durability.

If nothing 'official' exists, what are some of your personal recommendations?

I've seen that Collinite 845 claims to last for up to 6 months, 476s for up to a year, Optimum Opti-Seal for several months, etc... But I've also read other good reviews on products from Dodo Juice, FK, etc...

Cost is not a concern, nor is the finished look (unless it's really bad).

For the record I have a black Audi, so if product A and B are equal in durability, but one is better on black, would appreciate knowing that as well (but again, in general, looks are not that important, really just want durability).

Thanks!

Da Fats
09-28-2010, 11:04 AM
Colinites 915 or 476.... 2 coats over a properly peeped surface is one of you best options.... 915 I use on black and like. 915 over do policoat is a very nice combo if your want a sealent and a wax

CEE DOG
09-28-2010, 11:18 AM
Try some Optimum Car Wax (spray wax) every 4 months on top of the yearly sealant you use. Only takes a second after a wash while/after you dry.

TroyScherer
09-28-2010, 11:24 AM
Klasse AIO toped with 2-3 coats of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. Amazing shine and great durability. And one of my favorite combos. The KSG really brings the shine. :dblthumb2:

I usually top this with Collinite 845 for the winter with no problem. But you could use any beauty wax as your topper.

newb001
09-28-2010, 12:17 PM
Colinites 915 or 476.... 2 coats over a properly peeped surface is one of you best options.... 915 I use on black and like. 915 over do policoat is a very nice combo if your want a sealent and a wax

How does 845 compare to 915 or 476?

Da Fats
09-28-2010, 01:34 PM
How does 845 compare to 915 or 476?

845 is a liquid... is easier to get THIN and thus easier to remove. 915 has the highest carnival content out of all the coli waxed advise considered their beauty wax. A 30 dollar tin will last you a life time and it gets a couple more months durability vs 845. I think coli claims 8 months for 845 and 10 months for 915. I use both. I have yet to use them side by side but it your only gonna wax twice a year I'd go with 915. Just use a good paint cleaning lotion if ur not going to polish the paint before you wax and never try to use them I'm the sun or on hot panels!

476 can be a bear to work with from what I've read... same durability as 915 cheaper price not as good of looks.... but like I said that is all not from personal experience.

Hope the info helps. And I have heard good things about klasse but never used it... it has a little bit of a learning curve with it from what I read

dougaross
09-28-2010, 03:43 PM
How does 845 compare to 915 or 476?

From the Collinite website

Liquid/Gel Wax (845 and 925): 5-7 months depending on UV exposure.
Paste Wax (476, 885): 9-11 Months depending on UV exposure.
Marque D’Elegance (915): 8-10 months depending on UV exposure

Da Fats
09-28-2010, 03:45 PM
From the Collinite website

Liquid/Gel Wax (845 and 925): 5-7 months depending on UV exposure.
Paste Wax (476, 885): 9-11 Months depending on UV exposure.
Marque D’Elegance (915): 8-10 months depending on UV exposure

I stand corrected.... only 6 months for 845 apologies!

newb001
09-28-2010, 03:58 PM
Thanks. I guess I should have looked at their website... So it seems to me that 915 might be my best option as it offers some of the longest protection and is easier to apply than 476.

Da Fats
09-28-2010, 04:10 PM
Thanks. I guess I should have looked at their website... So it seems to me that 915 might be my best option as it offers some of the longest protection and is easier to apply than 476.

All I can say is its what I use.

newb001
09-28-2010, 04:16 PM
Klasse AIO toped with 2-3 coats of Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. Amazing shine and great durability. And one of my favorite combos. The KSG really brings the shine. :dblthumb2:

I usually top this with Collinite 845 for the winter with no problem. But you could use any beauty wax as your topper.

To confirm, I can use KAIO/KSG/845 or KAIO/KSG/915? Do I need any cure time after the KSG before the Collinite?

Thanks!

f150smith
09-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Yes, you definitely need to let the KSG cure for about a day, or at least overnight between coats, and I usually let it cure for a full day before topping with a wax. I have been using KAIO, and 2XKSG for many years topped with either the 915 or 476. This combo will last from about October to April without problem. Using a QD with nuba in it also helps prolong it.

Silverstone
10-02-2010, 08:56 PM
Yes, you definitely need to let the KSG cure for about a day, or at least overnight between coats, and I usually let it cure for a full day before topping with a wax. I have been using KAIO, and 2XKSG for many years topped with either the 915 or 476. This combo will last from about October to April without problem. Using a QD with nuba in it also helps prolong it.

I've always found that the third coat of KSG makes a big difference in shine. More than the difference from one to two. Three seems to be the magic number with that sealant.

Tesla
10-03-2010, 08:18 AM
I think this is the type of question that if you ask 10 people, you might get 10 different answers.

I'll give you my personal experience...

845 is great. Easy to use and lasts long and FOR ME was WAY beter than 476. I found 476 hard to use and didn't last AT ALL. I ended up giving away my tin, for free.

Having said that, the best I've seen for durability is Z2Pro, but a long shot. Looks great, isn't the easiest to use, but lasts forever.

ScottB
10-03-2010, 08:24 AM
sealants like Klasse, Rejex and Zaino offer longer durability but still need reapplication at about 6 months in most environments.

now if you can find a local detailer that can apply Optimums Opti-coat coating system, that would be the long term solution. If not, stick with above and recoat with Collonite or Optiseal at six month mark.