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321sinned
09-16-2010, 04:56 PM
Well what can I say but apparantly I booboo'd. My car had a couple of stray wet sending marks from the last time it was at a body shop. I purchased some Meguiers Ultimate compund to test it out. I applied by hand with a microfiber pad and removed with a micro fiber pad. It took out most of the scratches (I imagine they were stray 2000 grit), but some of the deeper ones stayed.

Problem now is that there are slight holograms from when it was applied. (by hand as these were crevices and corners) So the question is how to fix by hand? A different applying and removing technique with the same Ultimate compound, or try something less abrasive like a glaze? Which coincidentally will also be applied by hand as I do not own a good DA. :(

A4 1.8tqm
09-16-2010, 05:00 PM
Meguires scratch-x, the UC is pretty aggressive for finishing so it's expected that you would be left with some marks. Finish it out with a lighter polish like scratch-x and apply your favorite LSP. :cheers:

Speakerguy45
09-16-2010, 05:00 PM
Well what can I say but apparantly I booboo'd. My car had a couple of stray wet sending marks from the last time it was at a body shop. I purchased some Meguiers Ultimate compund to test it out. I applied by hand with a microfiber pad and removed with a micro fiber pad. It took out most of the scratches (I imagine they were stray 2000 grit), but some of the deeper ones stayed.

Problem now is that there are slight holograms from when it was applied. (by hand as these were crevices and corners) So the question is how to fix by hand? A different applying and removing technique with the same Ultimate compound, or try something less abrasive like a glaze? Which coincidentally will also be applied by hand as I do not own a good DA. :(

Hand apply a finishing polish?

Shane731
09-16-2010, 05:04 PM
It is virtually impossible to create holograms with a DA polisher, much less by hand. My guess is that the body shop buffed out the car and then put some sort of glaze with fillers on it, and the Ultimate Compound just removed the glaze. So what you are most likely seeing is the work of the body shop.


Here's a thread from a couple years written by Mike Phillips on Meguiar's Online. I'm not sure if he has a similar article written on Auto Geek or not - he probably does and I just can't find it. How To Remove Swirls By Hand - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7011)

Speakerguy45
09-16-2010, 05:06 PM
It is virtually impossible to create holograms with a DA polisher, much less by hand. My guess is that the body shop buffed out the car and then put some sort of glaze with fillers on it, and the Ultimate Compound just removed the glaze. So what you are most likely seeing is the work of the body shop.


Here's a thread from a couple years written by Mike Phillips on Meguiar's Online. I'm not sure if he has a similar article written on Auto Geek or not - he probably does and I just can't find it. How To Remove Swirls By Hand - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online (http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7011)

Really?, it seems like every time I use my PC XP to get swirls and scratches out it leaves holograms which i remove with the finishing polish:dunno:

Shane731
09-16-2010, 05:09 PM
Really?, it seems like every time I use my PC XP to get swirls and scratches out it leaves holograms which i remove with the finishing polish:dunno:

What you're seeing is micro-marring, not holograms. Check out this thread:

The difference between Rotary Buffer Swirls, Cobweb Swirls and Micro-Marring (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/28443-difference-between-rotary-buffer-swirls-cobweb-swirls-micro-marring.html)

Dubbin1
09-16-2010, 05:12 PM
Really?, it seems like every time I use my PC XP to get swirls and scratches out it leaves holograms which i remove with the finishing polish:dunno:

Didn't you just get the PC and new to machine polishing? Kinda early to be saying every time ;)

321sinned
09-16-2010, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the help so far guys.

I'd like to add that this is a black car. The sanding marks are very random. Like at the edge of a panel that got worked/painted. So say the fender got painted there are slight sanding marks onto the leading edge of the doors. Maybe about 2 inches from the edge.


Thank you for the links, and Im in the process of reading them. I tried searching, but the key words bring up so many threads its difficult to sift through.

So Considering my polishing arsenal is non existant. ScratchX will do the job on its own, or will i need something like a straight polish or glaze after that? Keeping in mind Im limited to local resources as I need to fix this by tomorow. lol

Walmart seems to have the best prices on Meguiars products.

Dubbin1
09-16-2010, 05:39 PM
All a glaze is going to do is help fill in the marks. ScratchX "should" get the job done.

Speakerguy45
09-16-2010, 09:21 PM
Didn't you just get the PC and new to machine polishing? Kinda early to be saying every time ;)

I used it twice and both times it happened so yeah :laughing:

Dubbin1
09-16-2010, 09:41 PM
I used it twice and both times it happened so yeah :laughing:

You're not getting holograms with a PC ;)

Rsurfer
09-16-2010, 09:45 PM
I used it twice and both times it happened so yeah :laughing:
Like CieraSL said you are not getting holograms from a DA.