seech
09-14-2010, 02:10 AM
Came across a thread in the forum about a stain which a 'detailer' said was impossible to remove and required a re-spray.
Paint-ball ink/paint - BMWClubMalaysia.com Forums (http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36873)
Being one who always likes a challenge I contacted the owner to take a closer look at it.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K6lPmy-I/AAAAAAAAB9E/HVWfF2cBBKA/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090708%20AM.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K7yo5NSI/AAAAAAAAB9o/eEbe9nDbOwQ/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090724%20AM.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K9abFAaI/AAAAAAAAB9M/e1LebBpUl64/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090738%20AM.jpg
Hmm.... paintball stains that cannot be removed by a 'detailer' whose only recommended is to re-spray the car???
Sound like a challenge...
I met up with the owner one night to take a closer look at the damage. The greenish streaks were indeed present and quite visible under certain lighting conditions.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GHgyCH0I/AAAAAAAAB7A/h0yK9brDDlY/s800/2010_08310015.JPG
What was also evident was the damage caused by the 'detailer' in an attempt to remove the stains. I did a test spot by hand to see if it was indeed possible to remove the stains and arranged for another day to remove the remainder of the stain.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GIP9tpAI/AAAAAAAAB7E/vdTBvj1GPg8/s800/2010_08310014.JPG
After a couple of weeks, I finally found some time to carry out the stain removal and arranged for the owner to bring the car over.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GJP7iF8I/AAAAAAAAB7I/PVHoW0Hz2h0/s800/2010_09130001.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GJp2QvaI/AAAAAAAAB7M/8ghvJ1CNEpg/s800/2010_09130002.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GK9Z0EGI/AAAAAAAAB7U/cizGr4uGaZg/s800/2010_09130005.JPG
After washing with Optimum No Rinse (ONR).
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GKObumcI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/FYNc3lncWEY/s800/2010_09130010.JPG
Not a bad result from just washing with ONR.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GLh1w0eI/AAAAAAAAB7Y/rXlWMwoWvQc/s800/2010_09130014.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GMfYJE7I/AAAAAAAAB7c/8dtrPqOuGM8/s800/2010_09130013.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GM2xE6XI/AAAAAAAAB7g/XQ2kSlgqJjc/s800/2010_09130008.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GNzQqmZI/AAAAAAAAB7k/FI1UbU8NVM0/s800/2010_09130009.JPG
Out with the halogen light for a closer inspection of the damage. You can see where the 'detailer' rubbed some sort of product into the paint in an attempt to remove the stains thereby causing extensive scratches and damage to the paint.
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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GOaGFlAI/AAAAAAAAB7o/Wdijv42Tu0Q/s800/2010_09130018.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GPufaWRI/AAAAAAAAB7w/3V4a6Wxtwkc/s800/2010_09130022.JPG
The clear spot on top is the test spot which I did earlier.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GOx6I-FI/AAAAAAAAB7s/o5GVvh9_5CY/s800/2010_09130021.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GQFcFcSI/AAAAAAAAB70/1w1V7APFYf4/s800/2010_09130017.JPG
There was also another stain on top of the drivers roof which would also require correcting.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GQ7QPOCI/AAAAAAAAB74/3V-y3er0nQQ/s800/2010_09130023.JPG
The rest of the hood was also pretty swirled up with plenty of Random Isolated Deep Scratches (RIDS).
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GShke10I/AAAAAAAAB8E/ncUan91maUw/s800/2010_09130027.JPG
Let's see what we can do about the stain that the 'detailer' said cannot be removed and requires a re-spray.
As usual, its best to start out with the least aggressive combination for the job. In this case I opted to try out the latest spray polish from Optimum Polymer Technologies, the Optimum Hyper Polish paired with a Meguiar's polishing pad with a Makita 9227 Rotary.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GTh1RQMI/AAAAAAAAB8I/qGiLRbxxZxI/s800/2010_09130029.JPG
After just one pass.... job done. Stain removed.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GUPn0hKI/AAAAAAAAB8M/D0wDNAHCmDU/s800/2010_09130030.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GUflvrFI/AAAAAAAAB8Q/3SJuK1uj2K4/s800/2010_09130032.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GU-ND_4I/AAAAAAAAB8U/pUsjRpxNhG0/s800/2010_09130033.JPG
However, the finish of the paint still left much to be desired as there were plenty of RIDS left behind by the previous attempt by the 'detailer' to remove the stain.
Time to step if up a bit with the Optimum Hyper Compound paired with Meguiar's foam cutting pad.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GV7RzVfI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/JheIZKmErQY/s800/2010_09130035.JPG
Some improvement but a few of the scratches were very deep and I decided not to cut any further as the main objective was to remove the stain.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GWcuJi7I/AAAAAAAAB8c/tWGy30LZeIM/s800/2010_09130036.JPG
The stain on top of the driver's roof was also successfully removed.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GW4rL_gI/AAAAAAAAB8g/Lt7swsGVRYw/s800/2010_09130039.JPG
A picture of the stain that the 'detailer' said was impossible to remove and required a re-spray.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7HakTOUDI/AAAAAAAAB9A/LXFmY6VKDAg/s800/19082010588.jpg
Final pictures after compounding, polishing and finishing.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GXfZlasI/AAAAAAAAB8k/FXaEsBsxQP0/s800/2010_09130044.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GYOlQ_iI/AAAAAAAAB8o/MDBfsLZvV9M/s800/2010_09130043.JPG
Thanks for looking. Comments and feedback are most welcome as always.
Paint-ball ink/paint - BMWClubMalaysia.com Forums (http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36873)
Being one who always likes a challenge I contacted the owner to take a closer look at it.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K6lPmy-I/AAAAAAAAB9E/HVWfF2cBBKA/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090708%20AM.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K7yo5NSI/AAAAAAAAB9o/eEbe9nDbOwQ/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090724%20AM.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7K9abFAaI/AAAAAAAAB9M/e1LebBpUl64/s800/Paint-ball%20inkpaint%20-%20BMWClubMalaysia.com%20Forums%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2014092010%2090738%20AM.jpg
Hmm.... paintball stains that cannot be removed by a 'detailer' whose only recommended is to re-spray the car???
Sound like a challenge...
I met up with the owner one night to take a closer look at the damage. The greenish streaks were indeed present and quite visible under certain lighting conditions.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GHgyCH0I/AAAAAAAAB7A/h0yK9brDDlY/s800/2010_08310015.JPG
What was also evident was the damage caused by the 'detailer' in an attempt to remove the stains. I did a test spot by hand to see if it was indeed possible to remove the stains and arranged for another day to remove the remainder of the stain.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GIP9tpAI/AAAAAAAAB7E/vdTBvj1GPg8/s800/2010_08310014.JPG
After a couple of weeks, I finally found some time to carry out the stain removal and arranged for the owner to bring the car over.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GJP7iF8I/AAAAAAAAB7I/PVHoW0Hz2h0/s800/2010_09130001.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GJp2QvaI/AAAAAAAAB7M/8ghvJ1CNEpg/s800/2010_09130002.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GK9Z0EGI/AAAAAAAAB7U/cizGr4uGaZg/s800/2010_09130005.JPG
After washing with Optimum No Rinse (ONR).
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GKObumcI/AAAAAAAAB7Q/FYNc3lncWEY/s800/2010_09130010.JPG
Not a bad result from just washing with ONR.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GLh1w0eI/AAAAAAAAB7Y/rXlWMwoWvQc/s800/2010_09130014.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GMfYJE7I/AAAAAAAAB7c/8dtrPqOuGM8/s800/2010_09130013.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GM2xE6XI/AAAAAAAAB7g/XQ2kSlgqJjc/s800/2010_09130008.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GNzQqmZI/AAAAAAAAB7k/FI1UbU8NVM0/s800/2010_09130009.JPG
Out with the halogen light for a closer inspection of the damage. You can see where the 'detailer' rubbed some sort of product into the paint in an attempt to remove the stains thereby causing extensive scratches and damage to the paint.
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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GOaGFlAI/AAAAAAAAB7o/Wdijv42Tu0Q/s800/2010_09130018.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GPufaWRI/AAAAAAAAB7w/3V4a6Wxtwkc/s800/2010_09130022.JPG
The clear spot on top is the test spot which I did earlier.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GOx6I-FI/AAAAAAAAB7s/o5GVvh9_5CY/s800/2010_09130021.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GQFcFcSI/AAAAAAAAB70/1w1V7APFYf4/s800/2010_09130017.JPG
There was also another stain on top of the drivers roof which would also require correcting.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GQ7QPOCI/AAAAAAAAB74/3V-y3er0nQQ/s800/2010_09130023.JPG
The rest of the hood was also pretty swirled up with plenty of Random Isolated Deep Scratches (RIDS).
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GShke10I/AAAAAAAAB8E/ncUan91maUw/s800/2010_09130027.JPG
Let's see what we can do about the stain that the 'detailer' said cannot be removed and requires a re-spray.
As usual, its best to start out with the least aggressive combination for the job. In this case I opted to try out the latest spray polish from Optimum Polymer Technologies, the Optimum Hyper Polish paired with a Meguiar's polishing pad with a Makita 9227 Rotary.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GTh1RQMI/AAAAAAAAB8I/qGiLRbxxZxI/s800/2010_09130029.JPG
After just one pass.... job done. Stain removed.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GUPn0hKI/AAAAAAAAB8M/D0wDNAHCmDU/s800/2010_09130030.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GUflvrFI/AAAAAAAAB8Q/3SJuK1uj2K4/s800/2010_09130032.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GU-ND_4I/AAAAAAAAB8U/pUsjRpxNhG0/s800/2010_09130033.JPG
However, the finish of the paint still left much to be desired as there were plenty of RIDS left behind by the previous attempt by the 'detailer' to remove the stain.
Time to step if up a bit with the Optimum Hyper Compound paired with Meguiar's foam cutting pad.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GV7RzVfI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/JheIZKmErQY/s800/2010_09130035.JPG
Some improvement but a few of the scratches were very deep and I decided not to cut any further as the main objective was to remove the stain.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GWcuJi7I/AAAAAAAAB8c/tWGy30LZeIM/s800/2010_09130036.JPG
The stain on top of the driver's roof was also successfully removed.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GW4rL_gI/AAAAAAAAB8g/Lt7swsGVRYw/s800/2010_09130039.JPG
A picture of the stain that the 'detailer' said was impossible to remove and required a re-spray.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7HakTOUDI/AAAAAAAAB9A/LXFmY6VKDAg/s800/19082010588.jpg
Final pictures after compounding, polishing and finishing.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GXfZlasI/AAAAAAAAB8k/FXaEsBsxQP0/s800/2010_09130044.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KgHZeGuxwBw/TI7GYOlQ_iI/AAAAAAAAB8o/MDBfsLZvV9M/s800/2010_09130043.JPG
Thanks for looking. Comments and feedback are most welcome as always.