The Wolfgang Twins - Picture with Links

[Mike Phillips]

Help : -

Quick Question I am looking for a swirl remover product and I am looking at WG twin combo.

I have a few question


I'll take a stab at your questions...





1. Do i really need the WG glaze as I have other product like Optimum polish II and Klasse twin


Neither of the Klasse Twins are anything like the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze. The Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is actually a Fine Polish, not a glaze.

You can substitute the Optimum Polish II but the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is a very high quality finishing polish and I've never seen a paint system it didn't finish down perfectly on to date. I would personally recommend having it in your detailing arsenal especially if you ever have to work on softer paints.





- After Wolfgang swirl removal should i finish with optimum polish / KAIO and seal with KSG or should i follow by WG glaze?


Either or. If you only have the Optimum Polish II you would use this after the TSR and before any wax or sealant. You won't need the Klasse AIO since you're already pre-cleaning the paint by polishing.




- If I need to use both WG Swirl removal and Glaze can I still seal with KSG? any harmful chemical effect?



No harmful effects at all and in fact the combo of TSR followed by FG and then by KSG should create a mirror shine.

Read this before applying the KSG

A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/37279-tip-working-waxes-paint-sealants-coatings-new-you.html)


What are you working on?


:)

[terentius]

Thanks mike for ur swift respond!

I am learning everyday and may have got too many product that I could us...

This is the forth time I am loading my cart in less then 2 months. People around me think I am obsessed!

I am working on my own rides a peogeot (18mths old)and a renault
(1mth old) both white and daily driver.

Some of products I have includes
Opt polish II
klasse twins
JW prime / prime strong/ acrylic jet and acrylic trigger
Autoglym polish and sealant
Collinte 845
Meguiar syn wax
FK425

With the Wolfgang offer I feel like adding a swirl remover. As I have got too many products I do not want wastage. Hence was anticipating should
I get a 8oz wg twins or just a 16oz wg tsr. With ur experience 8oz can use for how many car?

Any recommendation and how I can complement WG products with wat I have is greatly appreciated.

[Mike Phillips]

With the Wolfgang offer I feel like adding a swirl remover. As I have got too many products I do not want wastage. Hence was anticipating should I get a 8oz wg twins or just a 16oz wg tsr.

With ur experience 8oz can use for how many car?



About one medium size car. If you're going to have it shipped I would recommend getting the 16 ounce Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover, it's a GREAT product and very capable too plus for most people it will finish down so nice that you can go right to your LSP if you want.

Most our audience will want the ultimate and re-polish to finish down even finer but the average person would be blown away by just the TSR by itself and with white cars it's even easier to create a show car shine as white doesn't show defects easily.




Any recommendation and how I can complement WG products with wat I have is greatly appreciated.



You can never have too many buffing pads...
Microfiber Gloves and really nice microfiber polishing cloths for removing the wax...


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1279/1970Camaro053.jpg



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[nrsk4u]

Yes, WG FG will work much like PO85RD in terms of finish.

so, are you using this (WG FG) to jewel the paint? how long are you woking it and at what speed on the 3401? :buffing:

[Bunky]

I use it around speed 5 to 5.5 for 5 to 6 passes minimum. The work time depends on how much polish you use.

[JonFD]

Just made a small order from AGO, and I thought this thread needed more pics... Here's the things I just added/re-added to my arson.

I'm stoked to trade in the twins... I was going to go with 105/205 from megs, but this just seemed to awesome to pass up. I've been using Adam's/Chemical guys, which are fine, but I'm really excited for this.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8656/photogrd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/photogrd.jpg/)

[going_gorillaz]

this looks like an awesome combo, i need something bad for my black c6 vette and a noob.

might have to hold on the final wax though due to funds... and my wife :(

[Yamasixx]

Question... Do you have to use a DA to apply TSR? I don't have a DA yet and wondered if I can apply by hand?

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Since the twins are made by Menzerna, which Menzerna products do they closely represent?

[cleanmycorolla]

Question... Do you have to use a DA to apply TSR? I don't have a DA yet and wondered if I can apply by hand?

Yeah man, unless you want your arms to fall off??? Invest in a DA, you'll thank yourself:xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Yeah man, unless you want your arms to fall off??? Invest in a DA, you'll thank yourself:xyxthumbs:


I did this by hand...

Removing Scratches By Hand (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/31475-removing-scratches-hand.html)


I induced straightline scratches by hand, then ran a tape line across the paint, then worked the scratches out by hand using Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover, (4 well worked applications), followed by Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, (2 gentle applications), then striped with 17% IPA

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/ByHand01.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/ByHand02.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/ByHand04.jpg


I try to do all my work by machine but there are some places a buffing pad on a machine can't get to or it's risky.


:)

[ChrisJ]

Has anyone tried the twins using MF discs yet or this a strictly foam type product?

[cleanmycorolla]

I did this by hand...




:)

Dang, well there ya go, straight form the horses mouth! So ignore everything I said, but I do think you'll do some wear and tear on the biceps and triceps! Either way good luck and let us know how it turns out!:dblthumb2: Having done everything by hand until the past year and a half, be ready for some hard work! Either way have fun, thats what it's about in the end, having funa dn doing what makes you happy! :)

[Mike Phillips]

Since the twins are made by Menzerna, which Menzerna products do they closely represent?


Supposed to be similar to IF 1500 and SF 4000 which makes them an excellent combo for must projects.


Menzerna - New Names and Product Numbers (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/products-guides/47067-menzerna-new-names-product-numbers.html)


Menzerna has introduced all new labels and product names for identifying their products. I know it's easy to stick with what you know and change can be hard but the new product names and identifying numbers are here to stay so might as well make the switch when talking and typing about them..




PG 1000 – PowerGloss Compound (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-powergloss-compound.html) (S34A)


SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-po83-si1500.html) (PO83)


IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-intensive-polish.html) (PO91E)


PF 2500 – Power Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-polish-po203.html) (PO203)


FF 3000 – Final Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-final-polish.html) (PO85U)


SF 4000 – Super Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-nano-polish-po-106-fa-finishing-polish.html) (PO106FA)


SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-final-finish-po85rd.html) (PO85RD)


Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-power-lock-sealant.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/NewMenzernaLabels001.jpg





Has anyone tried the twins using MF discs yet or this a strictly foam type product?


I have on my black test panels which use a PPG basecoat/clearcoat finish and the fibers of the pad left micro-marring. Switched back to a foam pad and used the same products and they easily removed the micro-marring.

That's why I tell people that fiber pads tend to cut better but foam pads tend to finish better but the only way to REALLY see and know for yourself is to test on black paint.


:)

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Thanks for the info Mike