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sportscarhiatus
08-25-2010, 02:20 PM
Folks... after begging and pleading, I think I was able to convince the wife to let me get/order 1 new "big" goodie from AG... and I am leaning towards purchasing a beauty wax as my product of choice.

I have had my tub of Souveran Paste for about 3 years now... I love it, it's my favorite LSP. I emphasize the term "beauty" wax, because I am well aware that Souveran is not that durable... probably a couple to 3 weeks at best. But that's not what matters to me. For me, it's simply the LOOK. Souveran on black is unreal for me. BUT, I am trying to open up and try new beauty waxes ;)

So.... here's my request/question. Could you please recommend a high-end ~$100 to ~$200 priced nuba wax for me??? I think I have narrowed it down to a select few list. If there's another wax not on this list, please recommend it. Again, the criteria is purely LOOK (wet-ness, great depth and warmth). I suppose application and removal (ease of use) is a big plus, but in the end I could forego if the look it creates is worth it.

Which of the following would you recommend to be "better" than Souveran (or at least comparable to)? and WHY!?!?!? It would be greatly appreciated if you can discuss your actual use of the recommended product. How did it work for you? What color was your paint? Application? Durability (low on priority, but still worth considering)?

My list is:
Fuzion
Dodo Supernatural
P21S 100%
Sonax Premium Carnauba
Other??? (BFWD/MS, Victoria Concours, Swissvax, etc)

WRAPT C5Z06
08-25-2010, 02:31 PM
I bet most will reccomend Wolganag Fuzion or Dodo Supernatural. These are the only other "high end" waxes that AG sells. Athough, on black, I don't think AG sells anything better looking than Souveran. Supernatural gives a brighter, more reflective look, so that wouldn't be ideal for black.

Do you detail other cars?

trhland
08-25-2010, 02:41 PM
Folks... after begging and pleading, I think I was able to convince the wife to let me get/order 1 new "big" goodie from AG... and I am leaning towards purchasing a beauty wax as my product of choice.

I have had my tub of Souveran Paste for about 3 years now... I love it, it's my favorite LSP. I emphasize the term "beauty" wax, because I am well aware that Souveran is not that durable... probably a couple to 3 weeks at best. But that's not what matters to me. For me, it's simply the LOOK. Souveran on black is unreal for me. BUT, I am trying to open up and try new beauty waxes ;)

So.... here's my request/question. Could you please recommend a high-end ~$100 to ~$200 priced nuba wax for me??? I think I have narrowed it down to a select few list. If there's another wax not on this list, please recommend it. Again, the criteria is purely LOOK (wet-ness, great depth and warmth). I suppose application and removal (ease of use) is a big plus, but in the end I could forego if the look it creates is worth it.

Which of the following would you recommend to be "better" than Souveran (or at least comparable to)? and WHY!?!?!? It would be greatly appreciated if you can discuss your actual use of the recommended product. How did it work for you? What color was your paint? Application? Durability (low on priority, but still worth considering)?

My list is:
Fuzion
Dodo Supernatural
P21S 100%
Sonax Premium Carnauba
Other??? (BFWD/MS, Victoria Concours, Swissvax, etc)
if you can come up with the cashola swissvax concorso. is awesome and months of durabilty!!!!!

rwright
08-25-2010, 02:49 PM
From your list I would recommend Wolfgang Fuzion. It is just as easy to use as Souveran, looks exceptional on black, but doesn't stop there. You can use it on any color, metallic paints really like it! Durability is not too bad, you get way more than 20-25 applications per container, and like Dodo SN wooden pot it comes with a free refill. You may experience some sweating with Dodo SN, so if you have black you may want to skip this. Don't get me wrong though, SN is an excellent choice. But if you are after something that delivers the wetness of Souveran then Fuzion is your answer. All of this is based on your list and budget of course.

Mike Phillips
08-25-2010, 03:05 PM
The last two cars I used Fuzion on the results were flawless, plus it smells like candy and it's always more fun to work with products that smell great...

The last car was this Porsche...

1994 Porsche Detailed for "Operation Comfort" Modeled by Brittany from Stuart, Florida (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/26233-1994-porsche-detailed-operation-comfort-modeled-brittany.html)


Sam's 1994 Porsche 964 Turbo 3.6
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/Yancylighting007.jpg


Look at how the paint sparkles in the sun like a polished gemstone...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/871/MissB048.jpg




And before that was the 1969 El Camino...

Damp-Sanding Tools, Tips and Techniques by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wet-sanding-cutting-buffing/25915-damp-sanding-tools-tips-techniques-mike-phillips.html)

Wiped off...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/834/DampSanding68.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/834/DampSanding74.jpg



About a month later or longer, with nothing else but a quick detailer wipe-down it was still looking good at DetailFest...

DetailFest V Photos (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/company-forum-news-headlines/24428-detail-fest-v-photos.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/848/DSC03545.JPG




Everything we carry is top notch so you'll love whatever you decide upon...


Fuzion on Speed Channel...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYzRUuW3qVM]YouTube - Wolfgang Fuzion Show Car Finishing Wax[/video]


:dblthumb2:

WRAPT C5Z06
08-25-2010, 03:28 PM
The El Camino looks insanely good!!!!! :props:


The last two cars I used Fuzion on the results were flawless, plus it smells like candy and it's always more fun to work with products that smell great...


And before that was the 1969 El Camino...

Damp-Sanding Tools, Tips and Techniques by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wet-sanding-cutting-buffing/25915-damp-sanding-tools-tips-techniques-mike-phillips.html)

Wiped off...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/834/DampSanding68.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/834/DampSanding74.jpg



About a month later or longer, with nothing else but a quick detailer wipe-down it was still looking good at DetailFest...

DetailFest V Photos (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/company-forum-news-headlines/24428-detail-fest-v-photos.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/848/DSC03545.JPG




Everything we carry is top notch so you'll love whatever you decide upon...


Fuzion on Speed Channel...
- Wolfgang Fuzion Show Car Finishing Wax ("http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYzRUuW3qVM)


:dblthumb2:

CEE DOG
08-25-2010, 05:38 PM
x3 for Fuzion!

Color: Dark Blue with some mettalic fleks
Ease of Application: Extremely easy
Ease of Removal: Came off about as easy as Natty's Blue (Very easy)
Smell: Tasty Candies!
Durability: Lasted a long time outside 24/7 (About 3 months if I remember correctly-not for sure on that)

A4 1.8tqm
08-25-2010, 05:52 PM
Fuzion hands down!

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Type-R/First%20Fuzion/IMG_1677-1.jpg

ScottB
08-25-2010, 06:11 PM
Fuzion or Supernatural indeed ... you could spend alot more and find nothing better and be all the poorer for trying. I prefer Fuzion do to its ease of application and removal.

wytstang
08-25-2010, 06:14 PM
On a well prepped surface the difference between high end waxes (all really) is price, the actually look really begins to narrow. But if you want to try something new Fuzion or Supernatural would be the ones to try (it always fun to try new waxes/sealants).

BobbyG
08-25-2010, 06:44 PM
OK, you guys are starting to lure me into your camp with Wolfgang Fuzion.

I do think it's as good as y'all say but I've been using liquid waxes and sealants becuase I like the way they go on using my Porter Cable DA and a red or gold pad. Applying these products with my DA polisher allows me to put on just the right amount of product, forcing it into the pores or the finish and not wasting it. Putting on the correct amount also makes buffing it off easy.

Do all of you apply Fuzion manually with an applicator pad? :cheers:

Tell me how it's done boys! :hungry:

sportscarhiatus
08-25-2010, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the input everyone!!! It sounds like majority of you are recommending Fuzion over everything else, including Supernatural. So it sounds like ease of use is what puts it over Supernatural?

I was hoping the large tub was on sale in the included 30% off...but I guess not :(

sportscarhiatus
08-25-2010, 11:01 PM
also before I forget...can someone please explain the "sweating" issue with supernatural? who has witnessed this?

rwright
08-25-2010, 11:13 PM
also before I forget...can someone please explain the "sweating" issue with supernatural? who has witnessed this?

I have experienced it but nothing like Dark Horse. If you pull the car out in the sun and it starts to haze up, that's sweating. A lot of people fix this by wiping the car down with chilled distilled water.

sportscarhiatus
08-26-2010, 06:29 AM
I have experienced it but nothing like Dark Horse. If you pull the car out in the sun and it starts to haze up, that's sweating. A lot of people fix this by wiping the car down with chilled distilled water.

I've seen this phenomenon too! Even with Souveran... perhaps it's the layer LSP underneath that it's not compatible with... or perhaps the humidity. So chilled distilled is the only solution? hmmm..

So Supernatural sees this more than any other wax? How about Fuzion? Sweat-free?