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Truls
11-18-2006, 01:04 PM
Just bought the DG #101 and #105 at AG, i can apply the DG # 101 with my PC? if i then use the DG # 105 after, should i apply this by hand (some cleaner in it), or can i use the PC on a lower speed? Do i give myself extra work by doing this, should i only use 1 of the products and top it with a glaze?

Is i possible to use the Megs MG #21 or the P21s canauba wax to top DG #101/105

Truls

sparkie
11-18-2006, 01:26 PM
DG#101 by PC, #105 by hand. Thats what Big AL said. Next time I'm going to do that. I used my PC last time, I done a detail with #105. Put on the #105 and let it set for a least 1 hour, then wipe off. Then top with A/W.

If you want to top with wax, IMO P21s or S100 has a better look. And you may like Megs #21 look better.

Whitethunder46
11-18-2006, 02:15 PM
Not many people use DG #111? Isn't that more of a sealant than #105?

sparkie
11-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Not many people use DG #111? Isn't that more of a sealant than #105?
Thats what I understand. Going to try #111 out sometime in the near future.

Whitethunder46
11-18-2006, 02:25 PM
Thats what I understand. Going to try #111 out sometime in the near future.

I plan on trying DG #111 or Fourstar UPP as a bulk sealant for customer cars, along with Optimum Poli Seal

DG says #111 lasts for 6 months, and it's a pure sealant, no cleaning agents, which I like. Also 1 gal. of #111 is under $56 from Duragloss:cheers:

Al-53
11-18-2006, 04:46 PM
You can do the 101 with a PC...use a finish pad or a light polish pad..it has miro abrasives and a heavy cleaner....after 24 hours use the 105 apply by hand....go thin..after the applicator is primed it will spread fpr ever..I use the polish pal with the black pad..or a Meg's yellow foam pad..I find the MF pads suck up to much product...

The 111 is a good sealant but is not as good as 105...do not get me wrong 111 is very good..gives a zaino look and feel...and is very durable...but the 105 is there newest sealant...came out in june..and uses newer types of polymers..The 105 gives a more deep wet look...adds some nice depth...

..they are also working on a newer type sealant...and still in the research stage...

also the cleaner in 105 is very light...to me it is not a true type cleaner...but a surface prep cleaner....road film and contaminants a shampoo will not get off...

AL

Whitethunder46
11-18-2006, 04:52 PM
How long will 105 last? I'm looking for a durable sealant. DG #111 is quoted at 6 months.

justin_murphy
11-18-2006, 04:59 PM
AI-53 seems like our go-to guy for all of our DuraGloss questions. Thanks bro for helping us all out!

I bet you have a nice collection. Post a pic or two for us!

Al-53
11-18-2006, 05:22 PM
the 105 will last longer than 111...cars I did in June..look as good now as the day 1....The DG chemist told me that their tests showed 105 lasted 6 months under the severe tests they did....chemicals..washes alkali and acid cleaners...and the elements....these guys..Bill and Jerry owners and both chemists..are pretty straight shooters...always feel free to call them...they will answer questions and tell you about the products...Jerry is the more hands on Guy....

here is a letter he sent me after I did my truck with my routine....I do not think they are use to the way we do our cars....lol....I used 3M and Menzerna as my polishes and got the paint to a wet mirror...and put 105 on after..and sent him some pics as he wanted to see how there product looked after a pro polish


What great pictures Alan! I doubt anything can top that shine and durability. Pictures are as sharp and crisp as you will see coming thru an email. I really enjoyed talking to the man that was responsible for lighting the fire on Duragloss Car Care Products. I hope you will keep it going by spreading the word. You are a perfectionist in every manner. God Bless Alan and let me know if i can help you in anyway. Jerry 800-638-7245


So I am very pleased with there products...and I have found ways to bring it to its best...When ever I want to try something different..like mix water and AW for a summer mix I asked...putting a little AW in the fast clean and shine I asked....so I do keep in contact with them...

I have played with a lot of sealants 99% of them the boutique stuff...they are not bad mind you..but the DG was the best for me....

Al

Truls
11-18-2006, 06:18 PM
Thanks for great answers both sparkie and Al-53.

I had to chose between DuraGloss or Collinite, so all the good responses regarding DG made me choose the DG. Need a product that can outlast the Norwegian winter (heavy salting and road grime) Neither DG or Collinite is to be found in any shops in Norway. We have harsh winters, but no carecare products to prevent wear and tear during the winter (exept Megs)

Just have to wait for the mailman to deliver, then hope that the mild weather will continue (its 10c now but it can fall to -15c) Have a heated garage, but its hard to wash the car in -15c

Like a kid waiting for santa.......im waiting for my AG delivery

Whitethunder46
11-18-2006, 07:59 PM
So DG 105 can be used right after polishing? No bonding agent needed, correct? Is there a cure time since it's not a pure sealant?

sparkie
11-19-2006, 06:35 AM
So DG 105 can be used right after polishing? No bonding agent needed, correct? Is there a cure time since it's not a pure sealant?
So far, I haven't had bonding problems with DG. Done AIO top it with #105. #101 and top with #105. This is so far, I may or may not have bonding problem in the futrue! I've alway had a sealant base for #105.

Whitethunder46
11-19-2006, 11:50 AM
So you just said you had a sealant base for #105, so it's not a true sealant?

I would use the XMT line for swirl removal and then DG #105 or #111 for a sealant. This is for bulk detailing so I don't want to have to worry about bonding agents, and toppers for added durability.

sparkie
11-19-2006, 12:48 PM
So you just said you had a sealant base for #105, so it's not a true sealant?

I would use the XMT line for swirl removal and then DG #105 or #111 for a sealant. This is for bulk detailing so I don't want to have to worry about bonding agents, and toppers for added durability.

XMT, #101 or AIO then #105 or #111. #101 or AIO is your base. I have not tried to put #105 on top of XMT. I don't know if #105 will have a problem with bonding. #101 and AIO is a cleaner sealant. #105 and #111 is a sealant. I have not used #111, order it yesterday. And it's my understanding that #105 has a mild cleaner in it. I'm still new to this product.

Whitethunder46
11-19-2006, 02:45 PM
XMT, #101 or AIO then #105 or #111. #101 or AIO is your base. I have not tried to put #105 on top of XMT. I don't know if #105 will have a problem with bonding. #101 and AIO is a cleaner sealant. #105 and #111 is a sealant. I have not used #111, order it yesterday. And it's my understanding that #105 has a mild cleaner in it. I'm still new to this product.

Yea, but if your polishing with XMT beforehand, won't the polishing clean, remove swirls, etc. etc. etc. Your surface should be LSP ready then, so I would just put #111 0r #105 directly after XMT polishing if there wouldn't be bonding issues. No since in #101 or AIO IMO unless you want added durability.