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CEE DOG
08-16-2010, 09:50 PM
I completely understand why our government and BP used the dispersants. They did it because they know in America today all things are "out of site out of mind". Mid term elections anybody? Unforunately they turned this from what was originally an accident into intentional polluting. They put those toxic dispersants in there to make it sink and disperse. As much as some would like to think a certain somebody waived his magic wand and fixed it things don't really just disappear.
So where did the magic take it? "....It's in such small droplets that you can see it -- you can filter it and see it," he said. "But if you look at it, it's transparent, and small larval fish see these droplets as food so they're ingesting pure oil....."
Instead of using products that were available to soak up and collect the oil the following happened. BP while overseen by the EPA which is controlled by the federal government forced hundreds of millions of gallons of oil into the food chain of our environment and the earth. EPA (Environmental Protection? Agency) Hmmm, I wonder why some people don't trust agencys of the goverment that are controlled by somebody who is controlled by the big banks who just oversaw the largest heist of money from the common man and given to the banks (who caused the meltdown) in the history of the world...

Below is an article copy pasted from CNN:

St. Petersburg, Florida (CNN) -- Oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill may have settled to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico further east than previously suspected and at levels toxic to marine life, researchers reported Monday.
Initial findings from a new survey of the Gulf conclude that dispersants may have sent the oil to the ocean floor, where it has turned up at the bottom of an undersea canyon within 40 miles of the Florida Panhandle. Plankton and other organisms showed a "strong toxic response" to the crude, according to researchers from the University of South Florida.
"The dispersant is moving the oil down out of the surface and into the deeper waters, where it can affect phytoplankton and other marine life," said John Paul, a marine microbiologist at USF.
Results of the latest survey are scheduled to be released Tuesday, but CNN obtained a summary of the initial conclusions Monday night. Tests conducted offshore indicate the oil matches the 205-million-gallon Deepwater Horizon spill, which has been temporarily capped for a month, the summary states.
Some of it has spread into the DeSoto Canyon, a channel on the ocean floor east of the ruptured well. That canyon comprises part of the spawning grounds for much of the Gulf's commercial fish. "To date, this is the easternmost location for the occurrence of subsurface oils," the report states. The oil is not "draping" across the bottom, but is spread out in "small, unevenly distributed droplets," the report states. USF chemical oceanographer David Hollander said that when an ultraviolet light used to detect oil was turned onto the sea floor, "All of a sudden, it turns out to be a constellation of little dots."

And the oil could well up onto the continental shelf and resurface later, Paul said. Or it could be eaten by fish and other animals and accumulate in the food chain, Hollander said.
"It's in such small droplets that you can see it -- you can filter it and see it," he said. "But if you look at it, it's transparent, and small larval fish see these droplets as food so they're ingesting pure oil."
The Environmental Protection Agency has previously reported some oil turning up in the sediment at the bottom of the Gulf, but has not determined whether it came from the Deepwater Horizon spill that erupted in April or whether it was already present. And on August 4, the head of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration warned that oil could persist in the water even though the well has been temporarily capped.
The oil company BP used more than 1.8 million gallons of chemical dispersants on the Deepwater Horizon spill between its eruption in late April and the time the well was capped in mid-July. BP says the chemicals allowed the oil to be broken up into droplets small enough that microbes can digest it, and the Environmental Protection Agency has said the dispersants were no more toxic than the oil itself.
Critics warned the full effect of the dispersants on the food chain was not known and that their use in deep water effectively concealed the full extent of the spill.
NOAA spokeswoman Mary Jane Schramm said on Monday that she had not seen the latest study and couldn't comment on it. BP spokesman John Curry, meanwhile, said the company wants "to know everything everyone wants to know."
The company is responsible for capping, cleaning up and compensating victims of the oil spill, and it has committed to spending $500 million to research the spill's impact over the next 10 years. The latest study will "add another piece to the puzzle," Curry said.
"There will be others that'll want to look at this study and want to look at doing some additional research," he said. "There's been extensive testing up to this point, and I'm sure there will be much more going forward."

Matt
08-17-2010, 05:05 AM
Disgusting! That just makes me angry!
There were soooo many products shown that could soak up the oil, even some were posted on this website, yet they haven't used them! Bloody out of sight out of mind thinking!

Thanks for posting Cory!

BobbyG
08-17-2010, 06:49 AM
Geeee, I saw Obama swimming there saying the waters fine, come on in! Shrimp boats are hauling in a catch as if nothings happened!

This is a disaster of epic proportion and will affect the Gulf and its inhabitants for generations. Petrolatum pollutants will be absorbed by all living things there and will become part of the food we eat. Health issues related to this will be nothing short of shocking. How much of this will be covered up by both the government and the media will never be known but the long term results will be real and devastating.

I'm sure you all remember three weeks ago a government assessment was made and released that 1/3 of the Gulf was polluted by this oil spill yet now everything fine and life can get back to normal.

If you believe this I've got a couple of bridges for sale!!

Apokiliptik1
08-20-2010, 02:52 PM
can't post anymore on this, the news coverage has almost come to a hault because of the cap. They think all the oild is gone well, its not the chemicals they used just made it sick like algicide anyway i am still disgusted with our government and this whole thing. the bs in our government has reached epic proportions.

Zivman
09-05-2010, 07:24 AM
in other parts of the world, there is much more oil than this spilled every year without dramatic news coverage and life still goes on.

Not saying what happened isn't bad, just that oil is a naturally occurring substance in the oceans and mother nature will work through this. I am not loosing sleep over it.

Apokiliptik1
09-06-2010, 12:35 AM
in other parts of the world, there is much more oil than this spilled every year without dramatic news coverage and life still goes on.

Not saying what happened isn't bad, just that oil is a naturally occurring substance in the oceans and mother nature will work through this. I am not loosing sleep over it.
This has affected alot of people and they have lost sleep over this! That was an insensitive remark, maybe you didnt mean for it to sound that way but until you have seen some of these people lose everything because they couldnt work maybe you would have a little more understanding. not trying to argue just food for thought.

Zivman
09-06-2010, 08:49 AM
not trying to be insensitive, but sh!t happens. My business had a horrible year this year, but what can I do. sit and loose sleep over it, or adapt and change? People are out fishing again, and it looks like the worst is behind them for the most part. To me it sounds like all the hype and anticipation was much worse than the actual events.

The way the government handled this is beyond laughable. If I were directly involved, I wouldn't be mad at BP over this, I would be mad and the actions of our own government. I come from a school of thought that a sh!t happens. When our government got involved I feel they only made things worse. They could have done nothing and everyone involved likely could have been better off.

Apokiliptik1
09-06-2010, 11:24 AM
yes i get the adapt and over come aspect doesnt always work in this day and age.The economy has been bad for everyone repeat everyone and then you take away a big part of our economy HERE in the gulf coast it makes things worse for people here. Me personally as well have had a bad year and still struggling but thats neither here nor there, atleast you my friend are working. I am officially down with this thread.

Zivman
09-06-2010, 12:55 PM
yes i get the adapt and over come aspect doesnt always work in this day and age.The economy has been bad for everyone repeat everyone and then you take away a big part of our economy HERE in the gulf coast it makes things worse for people here. Me personally as well have had a bad year and still struggling but thats neither here nor there, atleast you my friend are working. I am officially down with this thread.
I am working, but not making money, so how does that make things better for me? This year I would have been better off sitting at home doing nothing. Not sure I see your point.

There are still plenty of opportunities out there to be successful, why sit and b1tch and moan about an oil spill that you have absolutely no control over. find another opportunity in your area, or go elsewhere