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Mike Phillips
08-12-2010, 10:56 AM
A few tips on starting a part-time detailing business (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/27827-few-tips-starting-part-time-detailing-business.html)

Match your services to your customer

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First... match your services to your client or market


Over the years here's the normal trend I see on detailing discussion forums...



"Car Guy" or "Car Girl" joins car detailing forum reads, asks questions, increases their knowledge.


Purchases products, often times moves up to machine polishing because clear coats are too hard and too time consuming to work on by hand.


Sees first-hand, phenomenal results from their new found knowledge, skills and abilities.


Starts a part-time detailing business.


Makes the mistake of offering "Show Car Detailing" to a customer base that knowingly, or unknowingly wants and will only pay for "Production Detailing".


The above two terms for the purpose of this article are generally described as...

Show Car Detailing = Multiple Step Process
Production Detailing = One Step Process


The point is, for most people just starting out the majority of your customers are going to be people with daily drivers and this demographic group are primarily interested in having a shiny car, black tires, clear windows and a vacuumed interior. They won't appreciate a 100% swirl-free finish and generally won't want to pay for it and also won't know how to maintain a swirl free finish after you with all your hard work create these types of results.

This is further explained in this article,

The difference between a swirl and squirrel (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/23142-difference-between-swirl-squirrel.html)


Someone just starting a part-time detailing business usually has very noble goals and strives to create show car results for every car they detail and I understand your passion as it is explained here,

The Mindset of a Professional Detailer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/20551-mindset-professional-detailer.html)


That said, you need to match your services to your target market and by this I mean you don't want to offer a multiple step process to the average person with a daily driver that includes,


Car Washing
Claying the paint
Paint Correction - Removing swirls, scratches and water spots
Polishing - Maximizing gloss and clarity by refining the results from the correction step
Sealing or protecting the paint with a car wax or paint sealant



And here's why... the above is a multiple-step approach, it will take you more time than doing a one-step and in most cases you won't be able to charge your demographic market enough money to make enough profit to make it worth your time AND be enjoyable. Working for free is a fast way to take all the fun out of a hobby that's turning into a business.


Instead when first starting out you should be doing a one-step processes or one-step detail jobs.


Wash
Clay
One-Step Cleaner/Wax by hand or machine


This is what's called a One-Step Process, it's actually 3 steps but washing and claying are accepted normal procedures in this day and age for detailing cars whether you're doing Show Car Detailing or Production Detailing.

If you want to do show car work, that is a multiple step processes, then I would recommend to first evaluate your customer and make sure you're matching your services at a profitable price point to customers that actually want show care results.


Production Detailing
Don't do show car detailing for someone that is going to run the car through a car wash as a normal maintenance procedure. It won't be good for you and it won't be good for your potential customer. You should target show car work to people that will appreciate your hard work and that will appreciate the results as well as be knowledgeable enough to understand that clear coat paints are scratch-sensitive and require proper care to stay swirl free.

Since the majority of people that will pay to have their car washed and waxed, (so they don't have to do it themselves), will fall into people that own Daily Drivers, and this larger target market will fall into the category of Production Detailing or in other words, doing one-step procedures to the paint.

The general goal of this type of work isn't to remove ALL the swirls, but to simply make the paint shiny again. Most people don't know what swirls are, they see paint that is either shiny or it's not shiny.

KISS - Keep it Simple Simon
Here's the good news... it's easy to make paint shiny! Show Car Detailing has been historically time and labor intensive with a measured amount of risk. Production Detailing or doing One-Steps is a lot faster, requires a lot less work and there's very little to zero risk. You just follow the basics,


1. Wash and dry car to remove loose surface dirt.

2. Use detailing clay to remove above surface bonded contaminants and restore smoothness to the paint. This is key because gloss comes from smoothness and restored gloss is a powerful visible before-and-after result that your customer will notice.

3. Use a quality one-step cleaner/wax to clean, polish and protect the paint. A quality cleaner/wax will remove surface oxidation, staining and minor surface imperfections. S cleaner/waxes will even remove and/or reduce minor or shallow swirls and scratches. A quality cleaner/wax or cleaner/paint sealant will restore clarity to clear coats and increase shine. Again, these are dramatic before-and-after visible differences that your customer will notice and appreciate.

And just to add, claying the paint with detailing clay also enables your choice of wax or paint sealant to bond better to the paint thus last longer and thus protect longer. These are benefits your customer wants but may not understand very well the reasons why claying helps wax to last longer so this is where you have the opportunity to educate them and set yourself apart from the average detailer with your knowledge.
(Use this to get referrals)

4. Apply some tire dressing to restore a deep, dark black appearance to the tires, clean the windows, vacuum and clean the interior and make sure it smells clean with a fresh scent and that's your basic service package and for the majority of car owners that's what they want, knowingly or unknowingly.


When first starting out, try to keep things simple, for example offer 4 plans each with it's own price point.


Simple Car Wash - Wash and dry car. (Up-sell dressing tires, cleaning inside of windows)
Interior Detail
Exterior Detail
Interior and Exterior Package



Create a consistent monthly income
Also offer a Monthly Maintenance Program with monthly billing. For an agreed price, once a week or twice a month or even once a month provide one of your services to maintain your customer's car so it always looks great. Once you do the initial detail maintaining their car into the future will be fast and easy and by setting them up on a regular schedule with monthly billing you will insure a consistent income at the beginning of each month for your business. Most of the detailers I know that have been successful offer monthly maintenance programs and make this the focus of their business. Keep it simple so you keep if fast and always be prepared to pick up a new customer at the location you do the work.

Monthly Maintenance Program

Wash once a week
Wash and wax every other week


For both of the above you will also include vacuuming and cleaning the windows but keep in mind, after the initial detail where you do the brunt of the work, these follow-up maintenance sessions will be very fast and easy. What your customer will appreciate is that there car is meticulously clean each time the see it and all the time they are in it, and a lot of professionals in any industry appreciate this kind of luxury and are willing to pay to have someone else maintain their vehicle.


Show Car Detailing
Go for the show car work if that's what you're interested in but target the Corvette owner, BMW, Lexus, Cadillac or any owner of what you think of as "Special Interest" cars. Keep in mind that what you think is "Special Interest" may not be the same as your customer, so be sensitive to other's preferences.

For example, I'm not trying to pick on PT Cruiser owners but just as an example, some people would view these cars as just a normal car while the owner may view their PT Cruiser as a "Special Interest Car" and marketing a multi-step process to an owner that will appreciate and take care of your hard work can be a profitable win/win deal.

Of course, show car detailing requires more skill and experience than most people just starting out have so don't run before you can walk. If you're just starting out get experience doing production detailing on daily drivers and continue gaining knowledge by reading discussion forums like AutogeekOnline.net and try to attend as many detailing classes as you can, always be open to learning about new products and procedures, this is something I practice myself.


Also, look at the websites of some of our regular pro detailers, (that have websites listing their services), to get an idea of what they charge for their packages. Don't try to re-invent the wheel but also don't copy other people's work word for word.



Be sure to read these articles before purchasing a domain name...



Brand Yourself, Brand your Forum Nickname and Brand your Business Name (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/23241-brand-yourself-brand-your-forum-nickname-brand-your-business-name.html)

How to choose a name for your detailing business (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/22283-how-choose-name-your-detailing-business.html)


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Slava
08-12-2010, 11:24 AM
Great info as always.

Thank you.

Fred114
08-12-2010, 11:51 AM
Any recommendations for quality one steps?

Mike Phillips
08-12-2010, 12:04 PM
Any recommendations for quality one steps?

In my list of articles I have 3 as of today's date under the topic Waxes Paint Sealants...

Waxes and Paint Sealants
Frosting on the cake (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/24488-frosting-cake.html)
How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-how-choose-right-wax-paint-sealant-your-detailing-project.html)
The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/19956-final-wipe.html)


In the "How to Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project" article I list all the cleaner/waxes, cleaner/sealants and cleaner/hybrids we carry...



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rwright
08-12-2010, 12:04 PM
Another great article Mike, thanks for sharing. :props:

Grizzly
08-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Its not easy to get the owner to dish out the money to have it maintained.

bluetsx05
08-12-2010, 12:11 PM
awesome info and great article. I was wondering though too, what about insurance? what if by chance something happens to a customers car while in your hands? something small or big.

Mike Phillips
08-12-2010, 01:00 PM
Its not easy to get the owner to dish out the money to have it maintained.

It's going to depend a lot on their profession, lifestyle, and priorities... but I do agree it is a challenge and a person would want to target upper income demographic segments of the market. Doctors, Lawyers, top Real-Estate Agents comes to mind because they often take clients along in their cars when showing properties... in this economy a person will really have to work at this aspect of their business.


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Mike Phillips
08-12-2010, 01:10 PM
awesome info and great article. I was wondering though too, what about insurance? what if by chance something happens to a customers car while in your hands? something small or big.

Here are some threads related to the topic of insurance... I've had insurance twice in my detailing life and when I didn't have insurance, if I made a mistake, then it came out of my pocket...

Insurance for a detailing business is a very specific topic that deserves some focused attention, since there's some pretty good threads on this topic hang tight while I assemble a listing of varied threads as a resource...


Insurance - Business owners what do you pay for insurance per year? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/24416-insurance-business-owners-what-do-you-pay-insurance-per-year.html)

Insurance - Insurance Questions? Need help! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/17849-insurance-insurance-questions-need-help.html)

Insurance - Business Insurance and Contracts? (Your help needed) (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/18354-insurance-business-insurance-contracts-your-help-needed.html)

Insurance - Cost of Insurance? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/20833-insurance-cost-insurance.html)



Here's some other related topical threads...

How to structure your business? LLC - Corp or S-Corp (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/23810-how-structure-your-business-llc-corp-s-corp.html)

Question about Tax Deductions for detailing? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/21566-question-about-tax-deductions-detailing.html)

Questions about getting a business license to detail cars? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-make-money-detailing-cars/21866-questions-about-getting-business-license-detail-cars.html)



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CU2MIKE
08-12-2010, 04:27 PM
Great info as always Mike!

I've got a question, what exactly do you consider me to be?

I don't aim for specific car crowds (average folks, car enthusiasts, exotic car owners).
I always do the following:
1. Ask what the potential customer is looking for (defect free, "better than before", or just shiny).
2. I explain to them my rates, why i charge them what i charge them
3. I explain to them steps involved for the price they are paying (Wash, dry, clay, vacuum and quick wipe down of interior, Single stage polish, then finally wax for 120 - 150 on a Sedan, a more "detailed" service that starts @ 30 dollars an hour with however many hours i deem the job to be, it include wash (complete exterior including wheel wells and exhaust tips), dry, vacuum interior, quick wipe down of interior, quick wipe down of engine bay, clay, tape up all exterior trim/emblems, multiple step polish with rotary first, finish down with DA, IPA wipe down, polish mess clean up, sealant or wax (both if that's what the customer desires for an extra charge)
Complete interior detail and engine detail are available @ extra charge.
Please tell me what you think of it? Do you think I'm doing/charging for good, honest work? I absolutely refuse to be another hack detailer who do hack jobs........
And also, am I more in between the 2 categories (production and show car detailing?)
sorry for the long post, hope to see your reply soon!

Mike C.

Mike Phillips
08-12-2010, 04:41 PM
I've got a question, what exactly do you consider me to be?


A professional who cares enough to educate their customer and evaluate their customer before moving forward and creating a new customer.



Please tell me what you think of it? Do you think I'm doing/charging for good, honest work? I absolutely refuse to be another hack detailer who do hack jobs......


Sounds like you fit the description I share here,

The Mindset of a Professional Detailer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/20551-mindset-professional-detailer.html)




And also, am I more in between the 2 categories (production and show car detailing?)


I agree, the two categories I listed are from a "Big Picture" point of view, I didn't want to get too deep on that segment of this article. There's lots of wiggle room where detailers fit into any particular category.

The big picture though is to evaluate your customer and either match your services to your customer's wants and needs or know when to walk away and let some other detailer have the blessing.


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CU2MIKE
08-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Thank you Mike!
I started detailing because of the sense of accomplishment I get from it, and the big grin on my customers faces when I show them the final results.
sorry for not reading your thread on "mindset of a professional detailer first", d'oh!

Mike C.

Fred114
08-13-2010, 12:57 AM
In my list of articles I have 3 as of today's date under the topic Waxes Paint Sealants...

Waxes and Paint Sealants
Frosting on the cake (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/24488-frosting-cake.html)
How To Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/23263-how-choose-right-wax-paint-sealant-your-detailing-project.html)
The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/19956-final-wipe.html)


In the "How to Choose The Right Wax or Paint Sealant for your Detailing Project" article I list all the cleaner/waxes, cleaner/sealants and cleaner/hybrids we carry...



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Thanks Mike, I knew they were here, just looked in the wrong places. Got it book marked now. Thanks again.

Gurge
09-22-2010, 01:54 PM
great article

for the one step / production detailing would you include any of the following?

-really cleaning dash / headliner with APC (instead of a 'wipe down')
-dressing interior plastics
-condition leather
-shampoo or extract carpets / seats (at least the big stains?)
-UV protection for convertible top


If not I assume it would be my responsibility to upsell the customer to an 'advanced' interior or exterior package

Mike Phillips
09-22-2010, 04:08 PM
Hi Gurge,

Since this was your first post to our forum...

Welcome to Autogeek Online! :welcome:



great article

for the one step / production detailing would you include any of the following?

-really cleaning dash / headliner with APC (instead of a 'wipe down')
-dressing interior plastics
-condition leather
-shampoo or extract carpets / seats (at least the big stains?)
-UV protection for convertible top


If not I assume it would be my responsibility to up-sell the customer to an 'advanced' interior or exterior package


For a production detailing job what you do is based upon the package you sell, all of the services you list can be offered but not usually for production detailing, especially the shampoo or extract carpets, seats and removing big stains. That would be your 5 Star Package.


Production Detailing would be very basic as that's all you have time to do for the money you charge,

Outside
Wash and dry car
Clay paint
One-step cleaner wax
Clean glass
Dress tires


Inside
Vacuum interior
Use a one-step cleaner/conditioner on vinyl and/or leather surfaces
Clean glass
Use a deodorizer or fragrance to impart a fresh clean scent


The above is pretty basic but depending upon what you're charging it's at least a good starting point.

You can do more and better work like cleaning the dash with a dedicated cleaner and then dressing with a dedicated conditioner/protectant, but somewhere you need to make time and cover costs.


Good question...


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