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GRUMPN
07-29-2010, 09:41 PM
I'm sure this has been covered here before. Unfortunately I'm an old guy newB who's pretty search function challenged. First - How do you determine when your clay bar is too contaminated to use? Second - Is there a cleaning method to render them reusable when they get too contaminated? The Two Guys Garage segments are well done and very helpful. :dblthumb2: Ric

CEE DOG
07-29-2010, 09:47 PM
Welcome to AutoGeek!!

If you drop the clay on the ground then you should toss it.
If you pick up something off the paint with the clay that is actually as large as a fragment I would pick it off the clay before refolding.
As you use the clay and continuously refold it you will come to the point where it doesn't look great any more.
At that point you can retire it from the paint use and use it for areas like glass, etc.
Once they get even dirtier then its off to the trashcan.
You can not clean the clay.

ScottB
07-29-2010, 09:49 PM
I would only add to consider cutting clay bar into two pieces (bigger bars) or buy the multi packs. If you drop it or feel its too dirty, toss it and grab a new one.

CEE DOG
07-29-2010, 09:52 PM
I would only add to consider cutting clay bar into two pieces (bigger bars) or buy the multi packs. If you drop it or feel its too dirty, toss it and grab a new one.

:xyxthumbs: I have been very stingy with my clay portions in the past. I probably break them up a little too much.

Yellow06GT
07-30-2010, 05:23 AM
Just a little suggestion when using a clay bar. If you lay a towel on the ground below the area you are working on it might save you from having to throw it away if it drops.

The first time I used a clay bar on the first swipe it was so slippery that it flew onto the ground. Nothing like throwing away a brand new bar. :(

Flash Gordon
07-30-2010, 08:11 AM
:xyxthumbs: I have been very stingy with my clay portions in the past. I probably break them up a little too much.

Ditto ^ I cut my Riccardo into 6 pieces Im the MAN

Mike Phillips
07-30-2010, 08:14 AM
I'm sure this has been covered here before. Unfortunately I'm an old guy newB who's pretty search function challenged. First - How do you determine when your clay bar is too contaminated to use?


Another way to think about this would be...

After washing your car and you feel the paint, if it doesn't feel like #40 Grit Sandpaper, or like concrete, that's a pretty good indicator that it's not "super" horrific contaminated and therefor won't fill up your clay bar with contaminants as fast as a finish on a car that is parked outside 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and hasn't had any appearance maintenance for 15 years.

See the difference?

Here's another example, my dad owns a 1965 Ford Thunderbird Convertible and my best friend owns a 1956 Ford Thunderbird Convertible, both cars are parked inside garages 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The only time they are driven is on sunny days to car shows. For these reasons, they paint never gets very contaminated and if either owner clays the paint the clay bar won't become very contaminated.

Now if they clay their work trucks, (both guys are Ford guys and have Ford F150s that are parked outside all the time), the clay bars used on the trucks will fill with contaminants much faster and therefore not last as long.

So you can gauge how contaminated your clay bar will become by gaging how contaminated the paint is to start with, this is just a "Big Picture" method of measuring but hopefully the point makes sense.

Besides that, common sense is what I use... when claying a cars finish, if the clay looks visibly contaminated, and I knew before I started that the paint felt like #40 grit sandpaper, then I know the clay bar is going to be loaded with contaminants and should be replaced before working on any future projects.




Second - Is there a cleaning method to render them reusable when they get too contaminated? The Two Guys Garage segments are well done and very helpful. :dblthumb2: Ric

There is no way to clean clay to make it resusable. Great idea! Just not sure the technology exists and even if it did it would be less expensive to just buy new clay.


Also for any lurkers, there's the Two Guys Videos and then there's the extended version we filmed here at Autogeek's Show Car Garage...


How to use detailing clay to remove "Above Surface Bonded Contaminants" and restore a smooth as silk surface.



Part 1 - How To Use Detailing Clay
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxAesk4Po4]YouTube - Part 1 - How to use detailing clay[/video]


Part 2 - How To Use Detailing Clay
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opfK408uIxM]YouTube - Part 2 - How to use detailing clay[/video]



Visit Autogeek's YouTube Channel for more YouTube Videos (http://www.youtube.com/autogeek)

GRUMPN
07-30-2010, 01:33 PM
WOW!!!! Fast and complete. Thanks One of the answers brought out another question. When used on glass what do I use for a lubricant? Same as paint? Thanks again Ric

CEE DOG
07-30-2010, 01:40 PM
WOW!!!! Fast and complete. Thanks One of the answers brought out another question. When used on glass what do I use for a lubricant? Same as paint? Thanks again Ric

You got it. same thing. I use ONR (old formula) haven't tried the new one.

Flash Gordon
07-30-2010, 02:08 PM
WOW!!!! Fast and complete. Thanks One of the answers brought out another question. When used on glass what do I use for a lubricant? Same as paint? Thanks again Ric

Same lube as I use on the body > H2O :props:

A4 1.8tqm
07-30-2010, 02:12 PM
After demoting a used piece of clay to glass only, for the clay's final duty, I'll use it on trim. Going over the trim preps it for dressing nicely.

Flash Gordon
07-30-2010, 02:13 PM
There is no way to clean clay to make it resusable. Great idea! Just not sure the technology exists and even if it did it would be less expensive to just buy new clay.

I guess I have been doing this wrong for the past 15+ years. I drop my clay in an old 7/11 cup with a mixter of dawn and water after each use. At the end of the day I thumb it clean and throw in a ziplock

Thanks for the Tip Mike

Regards,

Cheapsk8

CEE DOG
07-30-2010, 02:30 PM
After demoting a used piece of clay to glass only, for the clay's final duty, I'll use it on trim. Going over the trim preps it for dressing nicely.

I'll have to start doing that!

A4 1.8tqm
07-30-2010, 02:43 PM
I guess I have been doing this wrong for the past 15+ years. I drop my clay in an old 7/11 cup with a mixter of dawn and water after each use. At the end of the day I thumb it clean and throw in a ziplock

Thanks for the Tip Mike

Regards,

Cheapsk8



If it's been working for you for 15+ tears, I don't think you've "been doing it wrong" :props: