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ziggo99
07-22-2010, 03:00 PM
First off, I'd like to thank AG for doing such a giveaway.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7715.JPG
Liquid Natty Blue
A new variation of the famous paste Natty Blue. I've never used the paste, so I can't comment on those two head on.

Some label pictures
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7718.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7719.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7721.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7722.JPG
Weather
94 degrees, feels like 107. Worked in the shade.


Prep
Washed area with Meguiar's Gold Class, then clayed with Meguiar's Smooth Surface Claybar Kit, then polished with Meguair's Ultimate Compound on a 6.5" Lake County Hydro Tech Tangerine pad on a Griot's Garage buffer on speed 5 to make sure all wax was gone and to leave me with a good test bed.

Test
Here's where I went a little different. I only did one panel, the trunk. Why not the whole car? I wanted to test it against the two other carnuba waxes I own. Natty's Red and Meguiar's #26 paste. I split my trunk into third, with Blue on the left, #26 in the middle, and Red on the right. I'm looking for ease of application, ease of take off, shine and gloss, and hopefully durability.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7754.JPG
Application-Foam applicators

Blue
Easy to apply. A tad runny for my tastes, but it didn't interfer with application.

#26
I felt this one was the easier to apply, almost no comparison. It seemed oily to me.

Red
Very similar to Blue as to application.

Take off-First tried with a cheesecloth, but then went with Meg's Ultimate Wipes (see why below)

Blue and #26
I felt that they were just as easy to take off

Red
Not as easy to take off. When I tried my cheesecloth, it would not budge, it just wanted to smear.
**After doing another panel, Red came off just fine. Dunno what happened the first time

Slickness

1st. Blue
2nd. #26
3rd. Red
*It was quite humid in my area right now, so I want to say that the humidity effects how the Red bounded. I tested Red again on an adjacent body panel to see if I was right.
** All three seem to now have the same slickness. But it's getting humid out and it's hard to drag fingers across the paint to get a good feel. I'll try again in the morning when it's not so bad, or maybe later this evening.

Shine and Gloss
(All photos were taken with a Canon EOS 505D, 18-55mm kit lens and a Zeikos UV filter. It's not my camera, it's my brothers, so I don't get all the settings , but I believe the pictures are good enough and are color accurate)
I know this is gonna sound bad, but....I couldn't really notice a difference between the three from looking straight on them. I guess I fall into that category of bad detailer eyes. Maybe someone else can tell a difference. It also may have to do with the fact it was right about noon and taking pictures of cars with the sun directly overhead doesn't work out. Maybe this evening will turn out better.
Anyone, onto a plethora of pictures

[B]Blue
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7756.JPG
#26
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7767.JPG
Red
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7758.JPG
Blue
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7760.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7761.JPG
To me, that is some wicked flake close up.
Red
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7764.JPG
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/898/medium/IMG_7763.JPG

Conclusion
Without a direct comparison between the paste and liquid Natty Blue, I can't tell you which is better. Comparing Red paste and Blue liquid isn't fair either, because the chemistry is different. But I will say I was impressed with how easy liquid Blue was overall, that Red wasn't happy with high humidity and #26 is pretty oily. I'm glad I was able to put them head to head, and I'm ready to see how they hold up over time. I won't be touch them with any type of spray on wax, so what I see is what I get. Also, this is one just one review, on one car, by one man. Your results may vary.

Streetlife
07-22-2010, 03:30 PM
Nice job Ziggo99, I ran into the same problem with PB Natty's red. But the trick to applying Natty's red in the sun is to spritz each panel with a chilled bottle of quick detailer, then apply and remove Natty's red (wowo). :props: The high humidity changes things when using Natty's red, i live in Houston, so i was a good test subject for it. Personally, i don't apply any lsp's in the sun anymore.

ziggo99
07-22-2010, 03:34 PM
Nice job Ziggo99, I ran into the same problem with PB Natty's red. But the trick to applying Natty's red in the sun is to spritz each panel with a chilled bottle of quick detailer, then apply and remove Natty's red (wowo). :props: The high humidity changes things when using Natty's red, i live in Houston, so i was a good test subject for it.
We may not be brothers, but we sure do think alike. I did that very similar thing, except I just used cold filtered water, as I did not want to add anything to the test bed after using UC to affect bonding issues, in case the quick deatiler contained glossing agents.

Mindflux
07-22-2010, 03:39 PM
Nice review.

Steve PM'd me on another board and said LNB was closer to Natty's Red than it was to NB. He also said it wasn't simply wax in liquid form with a "wink". I wish someone would elaborate more.... maybe with time.

I mentioned this in Cee Dog's thread too.

rwright
07-22-2010, 03:48 PM
Nice review.

Steve PM'd me on another board and said LNB was closer to Natty's Red than it was to NB. He also said it wasn't simply wax in liquid form with a "wink". I wish someone would elaborate more.... maybe with time.

I mentioned this in Cee Dog's thread too.

I wonder if it has some type of bonding agent in it? Or possibly a dash of sealant?

Streetlife
07-22-2010, 03:50 PM
We may not be brothers, but we sure do think alike. I did that very similar thing, except I just used cold filtered water, as I did not want to add anything to the test bed after using UC to affect bonding issues, in case the quick deatiler contained glossing agents.


Much props ziggo99, you did stick to the best method possible to show us the results of all 3 waxes that were used in your review.

Mindflux
07-22-2010, 03:51 PM
I wonder if it has some type of bonding agent in it? Or possibly a dash of sealant?

I was thinking a bit of sealant in it. But then that may as well be PB EX

ziggo99
07-22-2010, 04:23 PM
The two pictures that got the real good flake images aren't correct color. Somehow in the editing process I changed something and it made them real dark. Below are the true images.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/medart468/AutoGeek%20Products/IMG_7760.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/medart468/AutoGeek%20Products/IMG_7761.jpg

CEE DOG
07-22-2010, 06:38 PM
Nice ziggo! Thank you!


I wonder if it has some type of bonding agent in it? Or possibly a dash of sealant? I'm thinking along those same lines.

Bunky
07-22-2010, 06:56 PM
Nice ziggo! Thank you!

I'm thinking along those same lines.

Steve mentioned extra cleaners so that may be a clue.

Mindflux
07-22-2010, 07:23 PM
Steve mentioned extra cleaners so that may be a clue.
Yeah he mentioned it can't be layered.. :buffing: