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jayhkr
06-29-2010, 11:19 PM
Ok, so I was thinking of switching some of my products for another brand once they are all used up. I currently have M105/M205/M21 and Natty's Blue (havn't tried yet) I REALLY want to get rid of M105 as I can't stand the short working time it has, not to mention the dust it creates even with normal usage is a pain. I like M205 for the ease of use, however am willing to look into other possibilites. I've heard good and bad things about M21 so would like to look at something else here. I've heard RAVE reviews about 85rd as a replacement for M21 so I will probably go that route next. As far as Natty's Blue, I have yet to apply it as I'm debating rather or not to add another layer of M21 in the morning or not. Now I know everyone has their own personal prefrenses so I don't mind getting a ton of different responses. I'm looking for:
1) work time ability
2) ease of use both putting on and taking off
3) durability
4) shine/looks/"wow factor"
5) price

And . . . GO!

Dubbin1
06-29-2010, 11:27 PM
Megs Ultimate Compound is a close match to M105 but has a much longer working time and produces very little dust.

This is after UC and a yellow (yes yellow) LC pad on a black 2000 Explorer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/dubbin1/DSC01484.jpg

After the picture I did follow up with M205 and a white pad.

Erik Mejia
06-30-2010, 04:41 AM
85rd is not a replacement for M21. 85rd is a finishing polish and M21 is an LSP. If you want a replacement for M21 try Power Lock Sealant or any other quality LSP.



Ok, so I was thinking of switching some of my products for another brand once they are all used up. I currently have M105/M205/M21 and Natty's Blue (havn't tried yet) I REALLY want to get rid of M105 as I can't stand the short working time it has, not to mention the dust it creates even with normal usage is a pain. I like M205 for the ease of use, however am willing to look into other possibilites. I've heard good and bad things about M21 so would like to look at something else here. I've heard RAVE reviews about 85rd as a replacement for M21 so I will probably go that route next. As far as Natty's Blue, I have yet to apply it as I'm debating rather or not to add another layer of M21 in the morning or not. Now I know everyone has their own personal prefrenses so I don't mind getting a ton of different responses. I'm looking for:
1) work time ability
2) ease of use both putting on and taking off
3) durability
4) shine/looks/"wow factor"
5) price

And . . . GO!

jayhkr
06-30-2010, 09:22 AM
85rd is not a replacement for M21. 85rd is a finishing polish and M21 is an LSP. If you want a replacement for M21 try Power Lock Sealant or any other quality LSP.

Wouldn't Natty's Blue be considered my Last Step Product since the wax is going on after sealant?

BobbyG
06-30-2010, 09:47 AM
If you want to say with one product like try the following;

Menzerna PO203
Menzerna PO106FA
Menzerna PO85RD
Menzerna APO-60

I generally use Menzerna PO85RD after Meguiar's M205 as it's a finer polish giving that that extra gloss. After Menzerna PO85RD I'll either apply a sealant like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 then a Wax for added depth and protection.

ScottB
06-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Menzerna polishes are indeed a sweet option ...

sal329
06-30-2010, 08:58 PM
M95 is a great polish, work time is longer then 105 does not finish down as good as 105 does. Cant go wrong with Menzerna polishes. I find that havinga good variety is key

kronos
06-30-2010, 09:04 PM
Ok, so I was thinking of switching some of my products for another brand once they are all used up. I currently have M105/M205/M21 and Natty's Blue (havn't tried yet) I REALLY want to get rid of M105 as I can't stand the short working time it has, not to mention the dust it creates even with normal usage is a pain. I like M205 for the ease of use, however am willing to look into other possibilites. I've heard good and bad things about M21 so would like to look at something else here. I've heard RAVE reviews about 85rd as a replacement for M21 so I will probably go that route next. As far as Natty's Blue, I have yet to apply it as I'm debating rather or not to add another layer of M21 in the morning or not. Now I know everyone has their own personal prefrenses so I don't mind getting a ton of different responses. I'm looking for:
1) work time ability
2) ease of use both putting on and taking off
3) durability
4) shine/looks/"wow factor"
5) price

And . . . GO!

Hi, I'm interested in the M105. I pm'ed you.

sportscarhiatus
07-01-2010, 03:06 PM
Menzerna polishes are indeed a sweet option ...

Amen to that Killer... I love Menzerna's line... I bought (and tried) M105/205 combo, but it doesn't compare to Menzerna's line. I have an order of Powerlock (LSP) coming in to, so I can't wait to try that.

jayhkr
07-01-2010, 11:01 PM
Ok, I'm going to look into the Menzerna line with my next paycheck. So maybe go with Menzerna Power Gloss (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-powergloss-compound-16.html) to replace M105, Menzerna Super Nano Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-nano-polish.html) to replace M205, and either Menzerna Final Polish 85U (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-final-polish.html) or Menzerna Finishing Glaze 115U (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-finishing-glaze.html) to replace M21. I want to keep Natty's Blue Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/32ozpowonapa.html) until I can afford Dodo Juice Supernatural Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/natural-carnauba-wax.html). Would you guys agree?

BobbyG
07-02-2010, 05:40 AM
Pinnacle makes some really great products so give them a look as well. As for a top notch LSP try Pinnacle Souverän Carnauba Paste Wax.

Bunky
07-02-2010, 04:11 PM
I think if you added Menz PO85RD as your finishing polish what you have will work with practice. M105 can be tamed somewhat if you need that correction. We know mixing is for hacks (Mindflux :laughing:) but adding a something like a finish polish to extend working time of M105 can help make it more predictable.

You can choose the polish line and adjust your technique or choose a polish line based upon your technique. They both can achieve the same results that satisfies most people.