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sparkie
11-07-2006, 03:32 AM
Who has used these Poorboys products? Can this be a replacement for AIO?
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1922_50907119 Poorboy's Professional Polish
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1918_28598583Poorboy’s Polish with Carnauba (BLUE)
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1918_28823614Poorboy's Polish with 100% Carnauba

supercharged
11-07-2006, 04:19 AM
Sparkie - those Poorboy's polishes have oil fillers in them. Kinda like XMT finishing glaze. What that means is you cannot use them prior to sealant application. Klasse AIO is a chemical cleaner, and it works just fine before an application of carnauba or sealant (although I prefer to seal before an application of carnauba). As far as replacement for AIO - it will really depend on application you will be using it for. It won't work on glass, nor wheels.

sparkie
11-07-2006, 04:57 AM
Poorboy's Professional Polish has no carnauba in it!

supercharged
11-07-2006, 05:17 AM
even though, it still has oils and will not work with sealant.

FloridaNative
11-07-2006, 07:34 AM
Klasse AIO is really a unique product being a paint cleaner and also leaving some acrylic protection. Honestly, I think the only product that could replace it would have to be the Werkstatt Prime.

sparkie
11-07-2006, 08:29 AM
Klasse AIO is really a unique product being a paint cleaner and also leaving some acrylic protection. Honestly, I think the only product that could replace it would have to be the Werkstatt Prime.

Maybe http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1921_71854209 Don't know yet!

As far as Poorboys I was told, Polish w/ Carnauba is like AIO on steriods ...if you are going to top it with a Pure Sealant like SG , then I'd use Professional Polish instead.

BILL
11-07-2006, 08:33 AM
AIO is a great product.......as there are other great products, i love to experiment with other products also and have done so.....but i think AIO is in a class all by it self.........remarkable product.........

FloridaNative
11-07-2006, 08:53 AM
Maybe http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1921_71854209 Don't know yet!

As far as Poorboys I was told, Polish w/ Carnauba is like AIO on steriods ...if you are going to top it with a Pure Sealant like SG , then I'd use Professional Polish instead.

I guess there are two ways of understanding your initial question. I was looking at it from the formulation standpoint as Klasse really is unique, but I wonder if you are wanting to know what other products to try that are quality cleaners like Klasse? There are many excellent paint cleaners, but they won't leave behind that acrylic protection like Klasse. I haven't used the Duragloss #101 yet so I cannot really compare it to Klasse from a users' standpoint, but I have used the Poorboy's pro polish and it is a very good paint cleaner. The Polish w/carnaubas would be a good one step product, but you won't be able to put a sealant on top of it.

sparkie
11-07-2006, 09:02 AM
FN, maybe
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1918_28823614

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1921_71980298
Then sealant.

FloridaNative
11-07-2006, 09:09 AM
But why do you want the Polish w/carnauba?? You can just use the Professional Polish and not have any bonding issues at all. The Pro polish is an excellent cleaner. I would use that and then the bonding agent and sealant rather than the polish w/carnauba. The polish w/carnauba is more of a polish/LSP and that carnauba isn't going to be friendly to your sealants.

joe.p
11-07-2006, 09:22 AM
FN, maybe
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1918_28823614

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/autogeek_1921_71980298
Then sealant.
sparkie
#601 has some cleaning abilitys and is a bonding agent for #105 which is actually the sealant..to enhance durability and claim to leave a better gloss.

Al-53
11-07-2006, 05:20 PM
The DuraGloss 101 is a strong cleaner....more so than AIO...101 has micro abrasives in it on top of chemical cleaners...

Poorboys PP does have some oils in it and needs a wipedown or wash before topping it...unless you use a caranuba wax..that is my finding..it does a good job....a true cleaner without any sealant or wax should give you a squeaky finish..if not there is something left behind...101 will not leave a squeaky finish as it leaves a sealant behind...

look at it this way...wash your hair and it squeaks....it is clean of oils..add conditioner to your hair it does not squeak...same with paint cleaners..it should leave a virgin finish..no oils....

PwC is not a good choice if you want to add a sealant on top...the wax content will hinder the bonding of a sealant...wax is more of a surface floater as it does not actually crosslink with the paint..it bonds...but not like a sealant does...some waxes now made have a small content of a polymer to help the wax adhere to paint better....some of collinites wax contains polymers combined with caranuba...making it durable...


AL

BILL
11-07-2006, 06:08 PM
:) Agree.......

ask4j
11-07-2006, 06:44 PM
I have used PwC (original & blue) and Propolish under sealants with no bonding issues.

If there is a concern about oils or filler from any product, a quick IPA wipedown should remove any.

"J"

ScottB
11-07-2006, 07:07 PM
the closest offering to AIO would be the new Optimum Poly-sealant.