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Marc08EX
06-19-2010, 10:21 AM
I tried searching but I can't find any answers about this. I bought my 106FF around 2 years ago from autogeek. (Woohoo) I stopped detailing for more than a year but the detailing bug kicked back in recently Im the MAN. I've been checking what are the new products out there and I noticed that 106FF is gone and 106FA replaced it? What's the difference between the two?

Thanks!

Mike Phillips
06-19-2010, 10:43 AM
A lot of times companies tweak a product to improve it because new technology becomes available or is created in their labs... I know from years of working for Meguiar's they continually improved products and often times never announce it, just improve and do a rolling change to the formula as it's being manufactured and poured.

Car wax and polish companies are very secretive, they don't share specifics with the public because that's sharing specifics with the competitor. FWIW


Here's what the copy for says for Menzerna Super Finish PO 106FA (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-nano-polish.html)

Note the first sentence...




New and improved Super Finish cuts faster, dusts less, and leaves an incredible gloss!

Note: Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA is the new and improved version of Nano Polish PO 106 FF. In addition to improving the formula, Menzerna has changed the name and label. It is currently only available to select U.S. retailers.

Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA is the next generation of Nano Polish PO 106 FF. Super Finish PO 106 FA contains a micro-fine abrasive dust that quickly removes light imperfections and holograms while creating a mirror shine. This new formula features less dusting than the original Nano Polish and leaves your vehicle with the glossiest possible finish.

Menzerna has hit another milestone with Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA. This polish creates unmatched gloss and slickness that is quickly becoming the standard for finishing polishes. The abrasive powder is equally effective on ceramic and conventional clear coats. Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA levels light imperfections and holograms while polishing the paint to an unbelievable shine.

Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA is another polish developed by Menzerna of Germany to address defects on ceramic clear coats at auto plants. With subtle adjustments to the PO 106 FF formula, Menzerna has made a phenomenal polish even better. It cuts fast with very little dust and leaves a mirror shine.

Though Super Finish PO 106 FA is designed for ceramic paint, the small abrasives work well on conventional clear coats without introducing holograms.

Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA removes 2500 grit sanding scratches, holograms, compounding haze, light swirls, and mild oxidation. It can be used on brand new finishes or on older, reconditioned paint.

Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA contains no silicone, waxes, glazes, or fillers. This is a water-based product. One upgrade of this product is that PO 106 FA produces very little dust, even less than the original Super Finish PO 106 FF.

Menzerna is always raising the bar. Because their polishes are used by Mercedes Benz plants, they’re always looking for a faster way to obtain the perfect gloss. They’ve achieved their goal with Menzerna Super Finish PO 106 FA.


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Marc08EX
06-19-2010, 11:08 AM
Hey Mike,

Thanks for the quick response!! I should have read the product description of the 106FA...

If only detailing retailers have trade in programs LOL!

ScottB
06-19-2010, 04:22 PM
From what I understand in layman's terms:

106FF --- the original formula, designed for Maybach and Mercedes intially using the ceramiclear finish clearcoats

106FA --- an updated version, designed when BMW start using the same technology and is said to offer less dusting.

What I can tell you for certain having both, you dont need more than 1. There is NOT enough of a difference.

Marc08EX
06-19-2010, 05:04 PM
From what I understand in layman's terms:

106FF --- the original formula, designed for Maybach and Mercedes intially using the ceramiclear finish clearcoats

106FA --- an updated version, designed when BMW start using the same technology and is said to offer less dusting.

What I can tell you for certain having both, you dont need more than 1. There is NOT enough of a difference.

Scott,

Thanks for the response. I won't buy the 106FA until my FF runs out then.

So they designed the 106FF originally for the MB ceramiclear finishes? I don't think it has enough cut at all to correct them. I just don't understand why they say that because I think this is more of a finishing polish that will work great for all types of clear, not just ceramiclear.

ScottB
06-20-2010, 09:19 AM
I believe it was first designed for Maybach which I believe was painted by MB for them.

It does have some cutting ability, but breaks down quickly into a great finishing polish with high gloss rating. Its diminishing abrasive design does that and likely why it has become so well liked on traditional finishes.