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maximus20895
06-06-2010, 10:35 AM
After using PO 85RD today on my soft honda paint with a blue LC flat pad using speed 5-4.5 there are "scuffs" all over.

They are hard to describe and I will try to take pictures later.

There are probably 10 or so in a square inch and for some reason they are only in certain areas. They are about 16th to 8th inch in length.

I know it wasn't descriptive, but maybe someone has had this probably before.

I will try to take some pics as I know that will really help.

Here is a pic. Sorry for the lack of clarity it was with my phone.

http://detailinghut.com/upload/scuffs.jpg

Thanks

fancyfootwork
06-06-2010, 10:55 AM
RIDs, random isolated deeper scratches. They appear after removing the majority of the 'spider-web swirls'.

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 11:09 AM
It is a 2006 and was painted in 2007 and they are all over. I just don't thing they are since there is not way I can put that many scratches on the paint and since they are all universal in style and length.

Mike Phillips
06-06-2010, 12:04 PM
When you say they are all over...

Do you mean all over the entire car?

Or

Just the area you buffed?

Or

Just the panel that was repainted?


Could they be cracks in the paint? I've seen cracks in usually the hood of vehicles, but not the rest of the car.


Micro-marring or hazing, which are both kinder, gentler names for a type of scratch instilled usually by DA Polishers from the abrasive action of either the abrasives and/or buffing pad or both, is very uniform over the entire surface, not usually just a randomly scattered defect here and there. Randomly scattered defects here and there are RIDS or cracks in the paint.

Both of the below articles are from our Frequently Asked Questions and Hot Topics forum group (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/).

Tracers Tracers - RIDS - Pigtails - Cobweb Swirls - Rotary Buffer Swirls - Holograms - Water Spots - Bird Drooping Etchings - Micro-Marring (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22234-tracers-rids-pigtails-cobweb-swirls-rotary-buffer-swirls-holograms-water-spots-bird-droping-etchings-micro-marring.html)

RIDS - The Definition of RIDS and the story behind the term... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/24045-rids-definition-rids-story-behind-term.html)




:)

Mike Phillips
06-06-2010, 12:07 PM
If these defects are white now, and before they were invisible, that could be polish residue in the defect that has dried making them more visually apparent then before, this would tend to be cracks.

If they are not white but opaque just easier to see than before then this wold trend towards micro-marring or RIDS


:)

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 12:13 PM
Here is a new pic I just took. You can see towards the bottom of the picture. Maybe this will give people a better idea. Note, that I have only test on the drivers door panel which was repainted. That is the only area that I went over with 85RD. The rest is 205 which I will eventually go over with 85RD.

http://detailinghut.com/upload/scuffs1.JPG

cobalt9123
06-06-2010, 12:54 PM
Those truly are odd looking...was it a new pad?

Mike Phillips
06-06-2010, 01:17 PM
Those "lines" below your finger look like lint coming off your wiping cloth.

These pictures are too huge for anyone to deal with and I have a 24" wide monitor...

Try cropping out the fluff and then just post the important parts...

Thanks...


:props:

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Sorry, I will crop it out :) I guess no everyone has a 27"..and maybe that should be a good excuse to tell Max to get you some bigger monitors :)

BTW, I used some IPA on the scratches and it came off for the most part so IDK. Yes, cobalt, it was a new LC 5.5" blue pad.

cobalt9123
06-06-2010, 03:40 PM
BTW, I used some IPA on the scratches and it came off for the most part so IDK. Yes, cobalt, it was a new LC 5.5" blue pad.

Hmm, if IPA got rid of them then it must have been what Mike suggested -- polish dried up in RIDS..?

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Here is the new one. It is 1000 by something pixels. I'm hoping your resolution is at least that high.

Wow, fast response, umm what do you mean polish dried up?
Here it is:

http://detailinghut.com/upload/scuffs2.JPG

cobalt9123
06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Wow, fast response, umm what do you mean polish dried up?


I mean this that Mike suggested:


If these defects are white now, and before they were invisible, that could be polish residue in the defect that has dried making them more visually apparent then before, this would tend to be cracks.

If they are not white but opaque just easier to see than before then this wold trend towards micro-marring or RIDS


:)

If an IPA wipedown truly got rid of them. Or possibly microfibers coming off of your MF cloth. What kind of MF cloth do you use?

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
For that I just used a super shine, but I usually use a pakshak or a DI towel.

I think most came off after IPA

maximus20895
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Okay, so the IPA helps, but every time I go over the paint with 85RD it leaves those "scuffs" all over. Any way to help prevent it from doing that?

cobalt9123
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
Okay, so the IPA helps, but every time I go over the paint with 85RD it leaves those "scuffs" all over. Any way to help prevent it from doing that?

I am at a loss without seeing it in person...is there any way you can take a video of before polishing/during polishing/after(results) of polishing?