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eurotrs
03-23-2010, 12:40 PM
I am just an amateur detailer, I mainly maintain my vehicles and help my friends out in exchange for beer/food

I use a PC, and a rotary.

My Daily is a 01 Jet Black 325ci, and my fiance has a Black 07 Camry and I have a german look Black 1974 VW Super Beetle.

My beetle is single stage and needs some work, it was resprayed about 6 years ago, sat outside till last year when I decided to finish it. I wet sanded and buffed the front half last year but am not totally pleased with the results. So I am going to do the rest of the car this year, there is still some peal on it since I was a wuss with the wetsanding. Don't worry there are 4-5 coats of paint on it so I know I have paint to work with.

I plan on sanding it with 1000, 2500, and 3000 then
105 with a w5000 wool pad via rotary
205 with a w8207 pad via rotary
205 with a w9207 pad via PC
3m UF on a blue 3m pad via PC
and top it with Auto Glym HD wax

What do you guys think? I know its simular to the el camino that Mike did so I hope it works well, I am just trying to get my process in order so I can buy some new stuff.

Mike Phillips
03-23-2010, 01:08 PM
Welcome to Autogeek Online! :welcome:

Just to note, it's usually best to "Introduce Yourself" in an Introduction forum group to let everyone know you've officially crossed over from Lurker to Active Member. Maybe tell us little bit about yourself, where you live, what you drive or what projects you're working on etc.

Then if you have product or process questions, look through the different forum group categories and try to pick one that the topic matches your questions and then start a dedicated thread for your specific questions

Clicking the below link will take you to the list of different categories or groups of forums identified by their title.

Autogeek Online Forum Topical Groups (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/)


Or you can simply post your questions is the Detailing 101 forum which is a catch-all forum for any kind of question.


Auto Detailing 101 (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/)



Hang tight and I'll see if I can comment on your project...


:D

Little OCD
03-23-2010, 01:16 PM
Welcome!

<-----is OCD too

Mike Phillips
03-23-2010, 01:24 PM
and I have a german look Black 1974 VW Super Beetle.



Very cool car in it's era and even today.






My beetle is single stage and needs some work, it was resprayed about 6 years ago, sat outside till last year when I decided to finish it. I wet sanded and buffed the front half last year but am not totally pleased with the results. So I am going to do the rest of the car this year, there is still some peal on it since I was a wuss with the wetsanding. Don't worry there are 4-5 coats of paint on it so I know I have paint to work with.

I plan on sanding it with 1000, 2500, and 3000 then
105 with a w5000 wool pad via rotary
205 with a w8207 pad via rotary
205 with a w9207 pad via PC
3m UF on a blue 3m pad via PC
and top it with Auto Glym HD wax

What do you guys think? I know its simular to the el camino that Mike did so I hope it works well, I am just trying to get my process in order so I can buy some new stuff.


Looks good, by the time you finish out with the 2nd PC step it should be flawless.

This is a very curved body style so you'll have to hand sand most of it, for the flat panels you could Damp-Sand by machine using your PC, one thing for sure the sanding marks will buff out faster....


Surbuf MicroFinger Buffing Pads now at Autogeek! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/new-car-care-products/23927-surbuf-microfinger-buffing-pads-now-autogeek.html)


Surbuf R Series 4 Inch Buffing Pads 2 Pack (http://www.autogeek.net/surbuf-4-in-buffing-pads.html)
Surbuf R Series 5.5 Inch Buffing Pads 2 Pack (http://www.autogeek.net/surbuf-55-in-buffing-pads.html)
Surbuf R Series 6.5 Inch Buffing Pads 2 Pack (http://www.autogeek.net/surbuf-65-in-buffing-pads.html)


The section below was sanded using the #3000 Unigrit Foam Finishing Disc on the Meguiar's G110v2 on the 5.0 Speed Setting for about 5-6 Section Passes.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf003.jpg


Here are the results after Machine Compounding using the Surbuf MicroFinger Buffing Pads on the Meguiar's G110v2 on the 6.0 Speed Setting with M105 Ultra Compound for about 5-6 Section passes.

We followed this with M205 Ultra Finishing Polish on a W9207 Foam Finishing pad on the 5.0 Speed Setting using the G110v2 for about 4 passes with medium pressure and then two more section passes with just a little more than the weight of the machine to keep the pad flat to the surface. The results you see here are only after polishing with M205, there is no wax or paint sealant applied at this point.

The test section was also wiped clean using straight Mineral Spirits to remove any residual polishing oils.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf007.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf008.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf009.jpg



Note the Dime in this picture carefully placed onto the paint
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf010.jpg



Close-up to show there are no sanding marks left on the surface, no tick marks or haze. There is a spec of dust just to the lower left hand corner off to the side of the dime that we left there to show just how close we are to the paint when taking this picture. This paint is LSP ready.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/837/SandingMarkRemovalWSurbuf011.jpg







IF you sand by hand, instead of starting at #1000 consider starting out at #1200 or even #1500 using Meguiar's Nikken Unigrit Finishing papers. Their papers will tend to cut as fast as one grade below the grade they are rated out while leaving a flatter sanding mark pattern and more paint on the car plus and easier buff-out...

You can purchase by the eaches her at Autogeek...

Meguiar's Unigrit Finishing Papers (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-sandpapers.html)

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/gallery/data/500/554unigritsmall1.jpg


Also, since you have a PC you might be interested in trying out Surbuf MicroFinger Buffing Pads and M105 for the cutting portion instead of the rotary. It's incredibly effective plus you get away from the traditional swirls instilled by a rotary buffer and pretty much remove the risk of burning through the paint.


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p.s.

Here's a good forum to post sanding questions...

Wet-Sanding, Cutting & Buffing - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wet-sanding-cutting-buffing/)

eurotrs
03-23-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the feedback, sorry, didn't mean to clutter my intro thread with tech questions

Here's a terrible pic of my beetle, My future plans are to drop a Subaru powerplant into it.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/93dxhatch/Beetle/2323232327Ffp5369nu534275255WSNRCG3.jpg

I live in a suburb of buffalo, NY so my daily gets pounded with salt and snow, and scratches from snow brushes.

pushtiulk
03-23-2010, 02:02 PM
Welcome to AGOL

Birdhunter
03-23-2010, 02:19 PM
:welcome:

reeper535
03-23-2010, 02:26 PM
Hey, what kind of Subaru engine do you want to drop in?

JonMiles
03-23-2010, 02:29 PM
Thanks for the feedback, sorry, didn't mean to clutter my intro thread with tech questions

Here's a terrible pic of my beetle, My future plans are to drop a Subaru powerplant into it.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/93dxhatch/Beetle/2323232327Ffp5369nu534275255WSNRCG3.jpg

I live in a suburb of buffalo, NY so my daily gets pounded with salt and snow, and scratches from snow brushes.

wow porsche rims on a beetle, thats something new. i like it :xyxthumbs:

eurotrs
03-23-2010, 02:39 PM
Hey, what kind of Subaru engine do you want to drop in?

2.5 from a newer wrx, I would love to do an STI swap but its just too much considering the amount of money I have to spend on a porsche g50 trans

a 2.5 with an fp green should be more than enough to make me happy in a car that weighs 1800lbs

reeper535
03-23-2010, 03:17 PM
cool ! i just did a swap to brand new sti, but its rebuilt stage 1 with cp pistons, stock turbo, id like to go with the gt30 turbo.

1800lbs lol thats gonna fly ! !