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MobolWerks
03-04-2010, 11:06 AM
I responded to a post about this, and thought I would just go ahead and lay out a step by step guide for success in almost any situation.

Just so you all know, I am actaully a certified carpet cleaning tech, so the guide will be based on actual experience and textbook guidelines.

First for floor mat's

1) Go to Target or Home Depot and buy a square tub big enough for common-sized floor mat's - by tub I mean one of those storage tubs that you might put winter clothes in during summer

2) Fill the tub with a mixture of 303 Fabric and Vinyl Cleaner and warm/hot water (I use 4 oz of cleaner for every gallon of water)

Note: the reason to use this product specifically, is that is cleans without the use of detergents - you do NOT want to leave detergent residues in the carpet or it will attract new soils (the carpet will be dirty again in a few weeks)

3) After the floor mat's are completely saturated, begin aggitating the entire mat with a soft-bristle brush (if you use a hard-bristle brush you will "scratch" the fibers - fibers are made of Nylon and nylon is plastic)

4) Disregard actual "stains" for now - i.e fruit juice, ink, market, etc.

5) Remove the mats from the tub and rinse them off - you can use a hose, pressure washer, or just dump a bucket of water over each of them - this will remove all imbedded soils

6) Treat remaining stains with the appropriate stain remover

A) Artificial Dyes (Kool-Aid, etc) - use Red Relief (you will need a white towel and a clothes iron (it will leave crap on the iron so don't use your wifes iron:))
B) Synthetic Stains (Ink, Marker, Oil, Grease) - use Kleenrite's Volatile Dry Solvent or Kleenrite's Dissolve Semi-Solvent
C) Blood, Vomit, Food, Drinks, Pet Stains (Protein-based stains) - use an enzyme-based product (Enz-All/Pet Stain-Off/Enzyme Pre-Treatment)

All of the above chemicals can be purchased at a carpet cleaning supply company like Jon-Don

7) Rinse a second time and lay out to dry - you may want to use a wet/dry vac to remove excess moisture (water)

8) Apply a SOLVENT-based protectant such as 303 High-Tech Fabric Guard

Note: Do NOT use Scotchgard - it only protects against dirt and debris - does NOTHING for actual stains such as drinks, food, oil, grease, etc.

Done properly you should only have to clean carpet and mat's once per year!!

For actual carpet the only difference is that instead of the immersion bath process listed above, you would use the same products - just you would work from a small 2 gallon bucket and use a soft-bristle brush - you could put the mixture into a spray bottle if you want to

After cleaning you would suck excess water out of the vehicle's carpet with a wet/dry vac and then allow to air dry

Do NOT soak the carpet - use only the amount necessary to achieving cleanliness, otherwise it will take about 5 hours for the carpet to dry

Hope this helps!!! :dblthumb2:

tempter927
03-04-2010, 11:32 AM
Nice write-up, easy to follow and great detail. Thanks for the effort.

Slava
03-04-2010, 11:37 AM
Thank you for the write up.
I will try it this weekend.

MobolWerks
03-04-2010, 11:37 AM
Thanks man...

The nice thing is that you can be a true carpet and upholstery pro for about $150.00-$200.00!! (rather than the $500-$1,000 it would cost to buy an extraction machine and chem's)

...and better results in my opinion:)

evilwrx
03-04-2010, 11:45 AM
Great write up. Thanks for sharing.

RaskyR1
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
What would you suggest for carpet that looks like this? :D


http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/Raskyr1/shop_cars/99sexcourt006.jpg

DLB
03-04-2010, 02:56 PM
Good write-up MobolWorks. Thanks for sharing!


What would you suggest for carpet that looks like this? :D

I know you're kidding Chad, but I have had some folks that wanted that kind of carpet clean!

For those who haven't had to do such - my method for these (and floor mats for that matter) is to scrub them with APC+ and let it sit for a bit then blast it with a pressure washer (out of the vehicle) until it starts to rinse clean. Then, you can start working on the heavy stains after that.

On hot sunny days, the floor mats will usually dry in a few hours. The carpets, just plan on them taking near a full day in said conditions. However, I don't do many details that I can't have the mats out of, cleaned, and dried before I finish. (Do them first). If someone wants that dirty of a carpet cleaned, arrangements are made for them to leave it longer.

DLB

RaskyR1
03-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Good write-up MobolWorks. Thanks for sharing!


I know you're kidding Chad, but I have had some folks that wanted that kind of carpet clean!

For those who haven't had to do such - my method for these (and floor mats for that matter) is to scrub them with APC+ and let it sit for a bit then blast it with a pressure washer (out of the vehicle) until it starts to rinse clean. Then, you can start working on the heavy stains after that.

On hot sunny days, the floor mats will usually dry in a few hours. The carpets, just plan on them taking near a full day in said conditions. However, I don't do many details that I can't have the mats out of, cleaned, and dried before I finish. (Do them first). If someone wants that dirty of a carpet cleaned, arrangements are made for them to leave it longer.

DLB

Actually I wasn't kidding! :D

Some carpets won't come clean without getting them wet though. These were actually rock hard before cleaning! Dark spots are burns.

I think the article is great, but the title of the thread bothers me.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i288/Raskyr1/shop_cars/99sexcourt016.jpg

DLB
03-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Actually I wasn't kidding! :D

Some carpets won't come clean without getting them wet though. These were actually rock hard before cleaning! Dark spots are burns.

I think the article is great, but the title of the thread bothers me.

My apologies. :o :D

You are absolutely right though - you can't get all carpets cleaned just with some product and a little water. (I think the OP was just going for a general how-to, not an end-all, so yea, the thread title is a bit misleading).

Consider this - when you clean the carpet the dirt/stains either have to come UP out of the carpet onto your towel or through the hose in your wet-vac, or it will to go down deeper into the carpet or under it onto the padding (and eventually resurface itself). That said, when it isn't feasible to get all the dirt to come up, push it all the way through (down) and out.

Edit - BTW Chad, I did a Jeep that had carpets (and seats) that looked like that and the owner decided it best just to replace the interior! (Boy was I glad).

DLB

RaskyR1
03-04-2010, 03:31 PM
My apologies. :o :D

You are absolutely right though - you can't get all carpets cleaned just with some product and a little water. (I think the OP was just going for a general how-to, not an end-all, so yea, the thread title is a bit misleading).

Consider this - when you clean the carpet the dirt/stains either have to come UP out of the carpet onto your towel or through the hose in your wet-vac, or it will to go down deeper into the carpet or under it onto the padding (and eventually resurface itself). That said, when it isn't feasible to get all the dirt to come up, push it all the way through (down) and out.

Edit - BTW Chad, I did a Jeep that had carpets (and seats) that looked like that and the owner decided it best just to replace the interior! (Boy was I glad).

DLB


Yep. Lots of variable when it comes to cleaning carpets. I would have loved to through the carpet away in the car I did too but it was a dealer car and they were not about to spend the money for somthing like that when the only paid $200 for the car itself. :D

I do appreciate to OP taking his time to do the article, especially with his background in carpet cleaning. It was just that the thread title makes it sound like people who use other methods are not professional. ;)

MobolWerks
03-04-2010, 03:32 PM
At a certain point the fibers in that make up the carpet are to damamged to "clean"... In terms of the carpet you showed pics of, I would start with properly dilluting a solvent based cleaner, such as Kleenrite's Dissolve... It is a solvent that is meant to be mixed with water... After that, I would spray it on the whole area, brush it in, and let it sit for about 15-20 minutes.

After that, you would want to rinse it thoroughly, and then start in with a detergent-free cleaner like the 303 vinyl and fab that I mentioned before.

In terms of the pic you posted, what is actually happening is that light is reflecting differently off of the worn down areas than it is on the unworn areas - this cannot be fixed

As towards the name of the thread being odd, I'm curious what you mean???? I am a professional carpet cleaner and the senior trainer at a carpet cleaning company, and this IS the professional way to clean carpet and mat's in vehicles.....I actually wrote a manual with this in it for our technicians:)

RaskyR1
03-04-2010, 03:56 PM
I just saw what I think you meant... While I do understand that there are many ways of doing any job, there are certain ways of doing the job that will produce a more long-lasting positive effect...

i.e. if your way involves a detergent, foam, or anything that would leave a residue behind, you are only solving the current problem, rather than the long-term problem which is that as long as dirt, debris, etc. remains, the problem remains - and if you use Scotchgard, you are not actually protecting the fibers from stains, you are just protecting them from abrasion from dirt being ground into them....

I am curious what everyone else does that's different????

Hope that clears up what I meant.

Thanks!!

No problem man. I knew what you meant, it's just the way it comes off when I read it.

I do understand the need for different chemicals to treat each type of stain, but at the same time most detailers don't want to carry several different products when a good APC does the job well. Less chemicals equals less cost and space needed. I think a lot of it will come down to the car and the type of clientele you are doing work for. Your process would be great for a high end retail job on an expensive car where you have all the time you need, but when some soccer mom comes in with a trashed 1990's Dodge Caravan, I don't think many of us care about things like that as long is it comes clean quickly and effectively.

Most detailers are using extractors combined with brushes and they pretreate with Folex or some other APC. Some will pretreat the areas and just run straight water in the machine to rinse the fabric too.

Again, I do appreciate the article. :props:


FYI, I cleaned the carpets above by letting an APC dwell for several minutes, scrubbed them with a brush, extracted with a Bissell LGM, followed up with a shop vac to remove more water. I Then proceeded to scrub and extract several more times until I no longer saw an improvement....think I made 5 passes.

I then place two fans on the interior until dry.

MobolWerks
03-04-2010, 04:06 PM
Gotcha... One thing you may want to look into is going to a carpet cleaning supply company and purchasing a "spotting kit". It would include versions of most of what I meantioned, and it only costs about $150.00 - keep in mind too, that this kit lasts an actual residential carpet cleaner about 6-9 months, so a detailer doing carpet occasionally would likely get a solid year or more out of the products included..

Typically you would get an ink remover, 2-4 stain removers, red-dye remover (which can be used on any artificial color-based stain like kool-aid), and a bag to store it all in... A great one is the spotting kit by Pro's Choice - but there is also a Matrix brand kit that includes even more choices (pretty much anything you could dream of) for about $175.00

Both of these are available at Jon-Don. It would really take your game up a notch or two if you had 'em, simply because having multiple choices, means having the opportunity to get out stuff you may be having trouble with...

Thanks!

RaskyR1
03-04-2010, 04:09 PM
Gotcha... One thing you may want to look into is going to a carpet cleaning supply company and purchasing a "spotting kit". It would include versions of most of what I meantioned, and it only costs about $150.00 - keep in mind too, that this kit lasts an actual residential carpet cleaner about 6-9 months, so a detailer doing carpet occasionally would likely get a solid year or more out of the products included..

Typically you would get an ink remover, 2-4 stain removers, red-dye remover (which can be used on any artificial color-based stain like kool-aid), and a bag to store it all in... A great one is the spotting kit by Pro's Choice - but there is also a Matrix brand kit that includes even more choices (pretty much anything you could dream of) for about $175.00

Both of these are available at Jon-Don. It would really take your game up a notch or two if you had 'em, simply because having multiple choices, means having the opportunity to get out stuff you may be having trouble with...

Thanks!

Thanks!

I'll have to check and see what's in my area. My fiancee has a townhome she rented that got completely trashed by her renters...would be a good place to test some of them out! ;)

I'll have to bookmark this thread. :props:


Rasky

MobolWerks
03-04-2010, 04:13 PM
Send me a message with pic's of your girlfriends place and I will walk you through everything you'll need!! Most of the dirt should be pretty simple, but things like blood, make up, oil, etc. can get a little tricky..

Also, Jon-Don has an online site, so you can order anywhere in the country and have it shipped..