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trek
04-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Oh I didn't put the HIDs in the fogs, LOL. You can see the bulbs in the pics. I agree about people w/ PnP kits who don't know what they are doing, see my previous post. Great info though! I'll do a quick write up on the HID install.

Thanks for the compliment Impressions!

Not trying to crap just inform, but you did just put HID's in a normal reflector housing. What turbos17 said was correct that just unplugging your old bulbs & putting a HID bulb in, can be illegal.

By putting HID's in a non-HID housing you have what they call scatter because the light is just scattered off the reflective housing, where as in a correct HID housing the light is projected and has a cutoff.

I have attached 4 photos that show 1 a normal housing, 2 a housing modded for HID's, 3 the actual housing that projects the light, and lastly what is called HID cutoff

Here is a link where I got the photo's from that shows you a step by step on how he retro-fitted the housing for HID's (http://www.littodevilperformance.com/hid/gallery/toyotasciontc/index.html)

detailjohn
04-01-2010, 03:10 PM
You can cover the light with Venture Shield and it won't turn yellow again.

A4 1.8tqm
04-01-2010, 03:45 PM
Not trying to crap just inform, but you did just put HID's in a normal reflector housing. What turbos17 said was correct that just unplugging your old bulbs & putting a HID bulb in, can be illegal.

By putting HID's in a non-HID housing you have what they call scatter because the light is just scattered off the reflective housing, where as in a correct HID housing the light is projected and has a cutoff.

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I guess I was a little confusing in the OP. I said that I did an HID install, when I was done I stood back and next to the new HIDs, my fogs looked terrible so I restored the fogs. Two seperate things, the HID install andf the fog light restoration.

Thanks for looking out trek, If I didn't know that, I would have been grateful for the warning. As I said before the HIDs did not go in the fogs, you can see the bulb in the after pics. The stock headlight assembly is built for HIDs with the projector lens already built in. Very convenient for me was the stock ballast housing/bracket, made for a very clean install. Here's a little write-up on the install.

Low beams have stock projectors-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2477-1.jpg

Back of headlight-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2480.jpg

I used a dremel to cut the smallest possible opening to accommodate the new wiring-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2509.jpg

Perfect fit-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2512.jpg

Rubber fitting sits nicely-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2513.jpg

Bottom of headlight, mounting for stock ballast-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2479.jpg

More dremmeling for ballast wiring. Double sided adhesive foam sticker to hold it in place-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2505.jpg

Piece of Plexiglas to complete the install-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2507.jpg

The headlights have a very defined cutoff. Each bulb has a cutoff that is lower on the left like this ____/-------, It's hard to show with keystrokes but each light's cut off is lower on the left. It's shown in a pic on retrosolutions website. It's so the lights don't blind on coming traffic, but still lights up the right side of the road, like the side walk. I love 'em. :dblthumb2:

trek
04-02-2010, 12:45 PM
I guess I was a little confusing in the OP. I said that I did an HID install, when I was done I stood back and next to the new HIDs, my fogs looked terrible so I restored the fogs. Two seperate things, the HID install andf the fog light restoration.

Thanks for looking out trek, If I didn't know that, I would have been grateful for the warning. As I said before the HIDs did not go in the fogs, you can see the bulb in the after pics. The stock headlight assembly is built for HIDs with the projector lens already built in. Very convenient for me was the stock ballast housing/bracket, made for a very clean install. Here's a little write-up on the install.


Ah yes I was mistaken. Np, and nice install :dblthumb2:

A4 1.8tqm
04-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Thanks Trek! I'm still amazed at the results I got on the fogs, and I highly recommend retrosolutions for any one looking for HID hits, nice guy's good service, great product. :xyxthumbs:

Zivman
04-22-2010, 09:07 PM
I guess I was a little confusing in the OP. I said that I did an HID install, when I was done I stood back and next to the new HIDs, my fogs looked terrible so I restored the fogs. Two seperate things, the HID install andf the fog light restoration.

Thanks for looking out trek, If I didn't know that, I would have been grateful for the warning. As I said before the HIDs did not go in the fogs, you can see the bulb in the after pics. The stock headlight assembly is built for HIDs with the projector lens already built in. Very convenient for me was the stock ballast housing/bracket, made for a very clean install. Here's a little write-up on the install.

Low beams have stock projectors-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2477-1.jpg

Back of headlight-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2480.jpg

I used a dremel to cut the smallest possible opening to accommodate the new wiring-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2509.jpg

Perfect fit-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2512.jpg

Rubber fitting sits nicely-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2513.jpg

Bottom of headlight, mounting for stock ballast-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2479.jpg

More dremmeling for ballast wiring. Double sided adhesive foam sticker to hold it in place-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2505.jpg

Piece of Plexiglas to complete the install-
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii437/dave22234/Audi%20A4/HID%20install/IMG_2507.jpg

The headlights have a very defined cutoff. Each bulb has a cutoff that is lower on the left like this ____/-------, It's hard to show with keystrokes but each light's cut off is lower on the left. It's shown in a pic on retrosolutions website. It's so the lights don't blind on coming traffic, but still lights up the right side of the road, like the side walk. I love 'em. :dblthumb2:
ummmm, your assemblies are not designed for HID capsules. Yes, they have projectors, but they are halogen based. Halogen projectors are still better than a halogen reflector based housing, but still not the "correct" way to do it. HID capsules produce light differently than halogens and require a housing designed for it -> light comes from a different point than halogens and is produced over a larger area than a halogen. you bought a conversion kit. Trek is still correct in his initial post. I don't mean to thread crap, but just thought you could use the info

A4 1.8tqm
04-22-2010, 10:20 PM
ummmm, your assemblies are not designed for HID capsules. Yes, they have projectors, but they are halogen based. Halogen projectors are still better than a halogen reflector based housing, but still not the "correct" way to do it. HID capsules produce light differently than halogens and require a housing designed for it -> light comes from a different point than halogens and is produced over a larger area than a halogen. you bought a conversion kit. Trek is still correct in his initial post. I don't mean to thread crap, but just thought you could use the info

No worries, thanks for the info! I'll look in to it a little further, at least they are projectors and give a cut off. No one has flashed their high beams at me yet. :xyxthumbs:

mhphoto
07-21-2012, 06:36 PM
Zombie thread time.

How long did the restoration last? Did you do any other maintenance after your last update?