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VR8
10-22-2009, 08:22 AM
I was just so pleased to finally see some clear results that I had to share. You know the saying, "The plumbers house always leaks" or "The painters house always needs painting"? Well, I was the detailer whos car needed detailing. That isn't to say it wasn't clean, I'm a bit to OCD for that. But I had those pesky little swirls that I couldn't get rid of. My really old Sears buffer of course wouldn't touch them. My Porter Cable that I bought a year or so ago wouldn't touch them. Even my first use of Meguiar's #105 early this year wouldn't get them all out using the PC!

Intro the Flex 3401: Last night I finally had time to test on the roof. Flex 3401, Meguiar's #105 w/Lake Country Orange pad. Followed w/Meguiar's #205 on a Lake Country White pad. It worked! Im the MAN

Before: Not too bad, but they haunted me. After all I'm suppose to be able to remove these things.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8001.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8002.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8003.jpg

Afters: I'll take more today as I'm headed back out to finish the job. Far side of the roof wasn't done in these pics. As I mentioned, I was just so excited to see my Velocity Red crystal clear, I had to take a picture. The sun went down before I finished the other side.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8004.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8005.jpg

Harleyguy
10-22-2009, 08:40 AM
Seems like your one happy camper now.Do a ipa wipedown between steps and you should be good to go .

Fred114
10-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Very nice John, think I might need to borrow the flex. :)

Glad to see those swirls are finally history!! :xyxthumbs:

Meghan
10-22-2009, 10:43 AM
Its always nice to see someone use the Flex and get blowed again with the results. Its a great machine, a must for a detailer!

DLB
10-22-2009, 10:58 AM
Its a great machine, a must for a detailer! You're such a saleslady. Pushing your wonderful products on us poor people who just need a perfect finish. :rolleyes: :laughing:

I would love to pic up a Flex...I am just trying to decide what model would be a good step up from the PCXP. My detailing "needs" are larger than my budget. :doh:

DLB

Meghan
10-22-2009, 11:56 AM
You're such a saleslady. Pushing your wonderful products on us poor people who just need a perfect finish. :rolleyes: :laughing:

I would love to pic up a Flex...I am just trying to decide what model would be a good step up from the PCXP. My detailing "needs" are larger than my budget. :doh:

DLB

Take your time, Christmas is coming up, and we do have a Wishlist online for you to use! Important question is, have you been good this year? :laughing:

DARK HORSE
10-22-2009, 12:11 PM
I am very concerned; as I just ordered and Porter Cable XP kit. I am wondering if I made a poor decision. Should I have orederd a Flex???

DARK HORSE
10-22-2009, 12:26 PM
I was just so pleased to finally see some clear results that I had to share. You know the saying, "The plumbers house always leaks" or "The painters house always needs painting"? Well, I was the detailer whos car needed detailing. That isn't to say it wasn't clean, I'm a bit to OCD for that. But I had those pesky little swirls that I couldn't get rid of. My really old Sears buffer of course wouldn't touch them. My Porter Cable that I bought a year or so ago wouldn't touch them. Even my first use of Meguiar's #105 early this year wouldn't get them all out using the PC!

Intro the Flex 3401: Last night I finally had time to test on the roof. Flex 3401, Meguiar's #105 w/Lake Country Orange pad. Followed w/Meguiar's #205 on a Lake Country White pad. It worked! Im the MAN

Before: Not too bad, but they haunted me. After all I'm suppose to be able to remove these things.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8001.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8002.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8003.jpg

Afters: I'll take more today as I'm headed back out to finish the job. Far side of the roof wasn't done in these pics. As I mentioned, I was just so excited to see my Velocity Red crystal clear, I had to take a picture. The sun went down before I finished the other side.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8004.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j192/7andan8/HillCityAutoDetail/MyRX-8005.jpg

Is your pc an XP and does that make much of a difference. I just ordered a pc xp and now I am concerned that it may not remove swirls and light micro scratches that I want to remove???Feed back please

MisterShark
10-22-2009, 12:38 PM
Is your pc an XP and does that make much of a difference. I just ordered a pc xp and now I am concerned that it may not remove swirls and light micro scratches that I want to remove???Feed back please


I believe the PC used in the OP was the first iteration DA: the 'non-XP' model from a while back.
The new XP version has extra power and likely would have taken care of those swirls, albeit not as quickly as the Flex.

02nissanISR
10-22-2009, 04:29 PM
Ok the Flex and the porter cable xp both have more correction power than the original PC. but this what you can do with the original:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_36601.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_3661.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_36621.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_36641.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_36701.JPG

I went from the white pad to the red for some deeper imperfections. These pics are after Meguiars Ultimate compound only I eventually finished the car with Megs 205.

The point is you can get a fair amount of correction with the PC with good technique and the right pad product combo.

02nissanISR
10-22-2009, 04:38 PM
The last post was in no way a contradiction of the original poster, just a post to make "trichard" feel better about his purchase. The Flex is by far a more powerful machine than the original pc but the PCXP is definitely a step up from the regular PC that I have. Just saying if I can do that with my PC your XP should be fine

SRHTX
10-22-2009, 04:53 PM
Yeppers. I LOVE my new Flex. The 1st time I used it was on a clients 2004 Black MB E320 that had just come out of the body shop. Was I worried, Of course. Once I started using it, if corrected things so much quicker over the PC. In fact, I have no idea where I've placed my ol PC. lol

Congrats on your 1st usage of the Flex. :xyxthumbs:


I was just so pleased to finally see some clear results that I had to share. You know the saying, "The plumbers house always leaks" or "The painters house always needs painting"? Well, I was the detailer whos car needed detailing. That isn't to say it wasn't clean, I'm a bit to OCD for that. But I had those pesky little swirls that I couldn't get rid of. My really old Sears buffer of course wouldn't touch them. My Porter Cable that I bought a year or so ago wouldn't touch them. Even my first use of Meguiar's #105 early this year wouldn't get them all out using the PC!

Intro the Flex 3401: Last night I finally had time to test on the roof. Flex 3401, Meguiar's #105 w/Lake Country Orange pad. Followed w/Meguiar's #205 on a Lake Country White pad. It worked!

Bunky
10-22-2009, 05:44 PM
I love my Flex DA too.

It just took about 3 minutes (one panel) to see this was a real machine. I now keep a small backing plate for 4-in pads on my UDM1.0 and use it on smaller sections (pillars, etc). It feels like a real polisher too (need to pay attention).

Bradshaw
10-22-2009, 06:43 PM
Its always nice to see someone use the Flex and get blowed again with the results. Its a great machine, a must for a detailer!
Uhh, hmmm, Cough cough, never mind!

VR8
10-22-2009, 09:57 PM
I believe the PC used in the OP was the first iteration DA: the 'non-XP' model from a while back.
The new XP version has extra power and likely would have taken care of those swirls, albeit not as quickly as the Flex.

MisterShark has it correct trichard, my Porter Cable was the older version. Your XP version should be a fine machine.


Very nice John, think I might need to borrow the flex.

What are you talkin about? Your Speed3 doesn't have any swirls!


The last post was in no way a contradiction of the original poster...

No ill intentions received. I certianly felt pretty good about my PC over the last year or so, it did some terrific work for me. For some reason the clear on my Mazda was a bit too tough for it though. I suppose a few more attempts with the PC would have given me a better finish, I just didn't have an occassion to go after it a second time. The Flex was just so easy in comparison.