Interesting new paint

[sparkie]

2010 Ford Taurus Videos | The Official Site of the 2010 Ford Taurus | FordVehicles.com (http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/taurus/gallery/videos-and-demos/)

Paint Quality Demo: Taurus vs. Lexus LS 460




I'm just wondering if there is any truth in it.

[ryandamartini]

w/e it still swirls lol

[Matt]

Yes, whatever.

Sounds like a bunch of bull to me.

I must admit though, the paint on the Lexus LS cars isn't too good. I've found it to be quite soft and swirls very easily! That's probably why they chose an LS460 to put against the Taurus.

I'd assume that the LS460 and LS600hL have the same paint.

[Bunky]

I had read Japanese cars tend have soft paint (which is what this comparison would show) because they do not certain paint ingredients that are more environmentally friendly than what is allowable in the US, Mexico.

[supercharged]

interesting...I see they picked Lexus, because out of all japanese cars in has the SOFTEST paint. Ford should of picked Infiniti, and compare the hardness of two...

[Mike Phillips]

Just a couple of comments...

Whatever new paint technologies are on the horizon, here's the features they should include,

A. The average person should be able to work on it by hand or machine. We don't have this with current paint technology.

B. The top coat layer should be thick enough that a person can remove a bird dropping etching and in the future remove swirls and scratches from the same area and not worry about going through the top coat layer. We don't have this with current paint technology.

Pretty simple requests when you consider how important the appearance is to the purchaser and the cost of a new car or a new paint job.


And on more thing, DISO should not be the norm when you buy a new car.

DISO = Dealer Installed Swirl Option


Nobody wants it and instilling it remove a little precious paint and removing the DISO removes even more precious paint, it's a lose/lose situation for the car owner.


Come to think of it, anyone visiting car dealerships and thinking about buying a new car should be packing heat, as is the Brinkman Swirl Finder Light (http://www.autogeek.net/brinkmann-swirl-finder-light.html), aka The Cruel Master.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/autogeek_2077_70936485


:)

[Pockets@PoorboysWorld]

AHH nobody else cringed when the watched that :dunno:

It was kinda cool to watch tho :props:

[Matt]

Just a couple of comments...

Whatever new paint technologies are on the horizon, here's the features they should include,

A. The average person should be able to work on it by hand or machine. We don't have this with current paint technology.

B. The top coat layer should be thick enough that a person can remove a bird dropping etching and in the future remove swirls and scratches from the same area and not worry about going through the top coat layer. We don't have this with current paint technology.

Pretty simple requests when you consider how important the appearance is to the purchaser and the cost of a new car or a new paint job.


And on more thing, DISO should not be the norm when you buy a new car.

DISO = Dealer Installed Swirl Option


Nobody wants it and instilling it remove a little precious paint and removing the DISO removes even more precious paint, it's a lose/lose situation for the car owner.


Come to think of it, anyone visiting car dealerships and thinking about buying a new car should be packing heat, as is the Brinkman Swirl Finder Light (http://www.autogeek.net/brinkmann-swirl-finder-light.html), aka The Cruel Master.



:)

Very good points Mike (as usual :p)

I have to agree that it would be nice for factory clearcoat to be thick enough for defects to be removed without compromising the paint too much.

And, the thought of taking a Brinkmann to a dealer when purchasing a new car is a GREAT idea!

[A4 1.8tqm]

:whs:
Here's a quote from the link- "Simply put, we don’t believe in gloss over substance..." :bolt:

[SRHTX]

DISO = Dealer Installed Swirl Option?

Heck. the detail guys at the Ford, Lincoln Mercury dearship, my dad is one of the main managers at, ALWAYS ADDs swirls to any vehicle they wash. Every used vehicle on the lot is marked with swirls from heck. This dealership only uses an automated car wash. My Step-Mother has a Lincoln MK-S and never washed it the 3 months she had it. I took it away from here and did a one step detail too it. Took it back to the dealership and they wanted me to take it away from there ASAP since it looked "Better than the showroom look". he he he It was nice and slick with ZERO SWIRLS ON IT!!!!!!

Boy I like making my father feel bad. HA!!!!


Sorry. I know that was off topic. :offtopic: I just had to do it since it was a Ford. As you can tell, I do not buy vehicles from my father.

[sparkie]

Just a couple of comments...

Whatever new paint technologies are on the horizon, here's the features they should include,

A. The average person should be able to work on it by hand or machine. We don't have this with current paint technology.

B. The top coat layer should be thick enough that a person can remove a bird dropping etching and in the future remove swirls and scratches from the same area and not worry about going through the top coat layer. We don't have this with current paint technology.

Pretty simple requests when you consider how important the appearance is to the purchaser and the cost of a new car or a new paint job.


And on more thing, DISO should not be the norm when you buy a new car.

DISO = Dealer Installed Swirl Option


Nobody wants it and instilling it remove a little precious paint and removing the DISO removes even more precious paint, it's a lose/lose situation for the car owner.


Come to think of it, anyone visiting car dealerships and thinking about buying a new car should be packing heat, as is the Brinkman Swirl Finder Light (http://www.autogeek.net/brinkmann-swirl-finder-light.html), aka The Cruel Master.

:)
I Agree:applause:

[2003 GMC Denali]

My Infiniti EX35 has the Self-Healing Paint...

The EX’s Scratch Shield Clear-coat paint is said to repair fine scratches – such as fingernail scratches under door handles – and restore the surface to close to its original state while maintaining the car’s gloss-level over time.

Nissan says the Scratch Shield process can take anywhere from one day to a week – depending on the ambient temperature and depth of the scratch – and uses special highly elastic resin. This resin is combined with a conventional clear coat to increase the paint's flexibility and strength by raising the resin density.

[Matt]

My Infiniti EX35 has the Self-Healing Paint...

The EX’s Scratch Shield Clear-coat paint is said to repair fine scratches – such as fingernail scratches under door handles – and restore the surface to close to its original state while maintaining the car’s gloss-level over time.

Nissan says the Scratch Shield process can take anywhere from one day to a week – depending on the ambient temperature and depth of the scratch – and uses special highly elastic resin. This resin is combined with a conventional clear coat to increase the paint's flexibility and strength by raising the resin density.

Yea, I've heard it's a pain to polish though, as it uses heat to self heal and when polishing, the heat caused by polishing causes the paint to become tacky (as it trys to self heal).

Another good point that was bought up by another member a while ago was that if the paint is "moving" (slightly- to heal) then how can your lsp stay intact to protect the paint?