Dont this sound a little funny?

[Brandon1]

Ok, this is a guy on a forum i'm on. He owns "Leverage" a boat detailing products company. He is responding to my post about using Opti Seal on a boat and how Carnauba will not yellow a gel-coat over time.

"No peeing in the pool.

Please raise your hand if you have your biology degree, develop products including waxes/polishes and you also have a fulltime detailing business only dealing in boats.

Sorry B, but a few items about spray waxes, polymers and paste waxes.

There are many spray polymer polishes that will outlast paste waxes by 6 months. Paste waxes are good for cover up and are what most refer to as a traditional wax. If you don't want to buff or you want a quick shine on an oxidized boat then you use a paste wax. Ie; I can take MG FlagS to a heavily oxidized boat and make it shine instantly. The problem is two weeks or a month down the road when the wax dissipates, the oxidation comes back worse and the boat looks terrible again. Polymer technology is the best way to protect fiberglass without the yellowing or premature oxidation factor. Also, IF THE BOAT HAS OXIDATION then buff it with a rotary buffer. If it's terrible then wetsand, buff then polish.

The majority of compaines use allot of additives in their paste wax. Chemicals like turpentine, carnauba, petroleum distillates and silicone. These additives dry out the fiberglass and so therefore the customer thinks it's time for another coat of wax. Not the case....Ie; when my polish dissipates the only side effect you get is the water dosen't sheet anymore. There's no loss of shine unless you're using something other than recommended for soap, etc..

One other thing then I'll get off my box.

Eco friendly is the sign of the times. A company can't claim to be 90% Eco friendly or even 98%. You're either Eco friendly or your not.

As always!! Read the ingredients on what you're using or ask the manufacturer to fax or email you their MSDS.

Just setting the record straight. I don't want or have time to get into a pointing match.

Have a good one!!"



Now, dont some of that sound a little funny?

[CharlesW]

Ok, this is a guy on a forum i'm on. He owns "Leverage" a boat detailing products company. He is responding to my post about using Opti Seal on a boat and how Carnauba will not yellow a gel-coat over time.

"No peeing in the pool.

Please raise your hand if you have your biology degree, develop products including waxes/polishes and you also have a fulltime detailing business only dealing in boats.

Sorry B, but a few items about spray waxes, polymers and paste waxes.

There are many spray polymer polishes that will outlast paste waxes by 6 months. Paste waxes are good for cover up and are what most refer to as a traditional wax. If you don't want to buff or you want a quick shine on an oxidized boat then you use a paste wax. Ie; I can take MG FlagS to a heavily oxidized boat and make it shine instantly. The problem is two weeks or a month down the road when the wax dissipates, the oxidation comes back worse and the boat looks terrible again. Polymer technology is the best way to protect fiberglass without the yellowing or premature oxidation factor. Also, IF THE BOAT HAS OXIDATION then buff it with a rotary buffer. If it's terrible then wetsand, buff then polish.

The majority of compaines use allot of additives in their paste wax. Chemicals like turpentine, carnauba, petroleum distillates and silicone. These additives dry out the fiberglass and so therefore the customer thinks it's time for another coat of wax. Not the case....Ie; when my polish dissipates the only side effect you get is the water dosen't sheet anymore. There's no loss of shine unless you're using something other than recommended for soap, etc..

One other thing then I'll get off my box.

Eco friendly is the sign of the times. A company can't claim to be 90% Eco friendly or even 98%. You're either Eco friendly or your not.

As always!! Read the ingredients on what you're using or ask the manufacturer to fax or email you their MSDS.

Just setting the record straight. I don't want or have time to get into a pointing match.

Have a good one!!"


Now, dont some of that sound a little funny?Other than what I highlighted, it doesn't sound too funny to me.
Not having a degree in chemistry, I have no idea as to the effect of those products mentioned on fiberglass gel-coat. In the 34 years I owned boats, I always used a liquid wax rather than a paste wax. No reason other than it was usually the same wax I was using on my vehicles. In the past two years it so happened that I did polish/clean with Poli-Seal and use Opti-Seal as my LSP. Worked great.
I never had the problem, but I have seen neglected boats that were extremely difficult to restore a shine to. Gel-coat is not paint and it doesn't react the same way. Easy solution, wax regularly and don't deal with a neglected, oxidized finish.

[Jimmie]

The guy opens up with two "killer statements" designed solely to put one down to make him look more knowledgeable. Hard to read anything that he says after that.
Does sound like he is using "polymer polish" to mean "sealant".
I've used carnuba on gel coats. A boat and my motorhome. Never noticed any adverse affects. Why would Collinite label one of their carnubas "Marine"? Just food for thought. They are the experts that did the R&D.