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EddieNunez8620
01-02-2009, 08:17 PM
Hello Everyone!!!

Im new to the forum.... I've been reading and hunting for a few days and recently joined.

I just purchased a used White Lincoln Navigator and want you guys to help me out.

I'm looking to detail my car.... give it a wax and have it look shinny. I normally wax my other car, a Red 2002 Ford Explorer.

What I always used with that car was Turtle products.... Like the turtle wax paste and then Mothers Spray wax afterwards... or the ICE products by Turtle as well.

What can you guys recommend me? Im looking to wax my White navigator and make it look clean and wet.....

Help me out :o

I will greatly appreciate all your comments.

What I want to know is which is the best product for my truck color (white) and how should I apply it.

Like I always read about waxing a car then applying sealant.... I've never done this before.

Please help a newbieeeeee.


Thanks In advance

Eddie

Joshs2013MSAltimaSL
01-02-2009, 08:19 PM
What is the condition of your paint? That will help us out in suggesting which products to go with! :D Welcome to the forum!!

EddieNunez8620
01-02-2009, 08:22 PM
its mint. Looks very good....

Joshs2013MSAltimaSL
01-02-2009, 08:24 PM
Right...but do you know how it's been washed in the past? Chances are it's covered in swirls right?

EddieNunez8620
01-02-2009, 08:25 PM
I think so.... It was always washed by machines..Since I had it, I always take my car to a hand wash location

rousher99
01-02-2009, 09:06 PM
i would personaly get some meguiars #2 light cut cleaner to gwet the light swirls then if there are still marks use meguiars #1 medium cut cleaner and fallow up with meguiars #9 swirl remover and lastly use either meguiars #26 high tech wax or wolfgang fuzion wax. this is what i have had experiance with and it will look amazing. if you want to spend alittle more mony instead of meguiars you can get menzerna polishes. i also recomend a porter cable polisher. and lake country foam ccs pads.
-kory:buffing:

loudog2
01-02-2009, 09:14 PM
Get some menzerna power finish 203. Use a green or white LC pad on a flex or PC. If that doesn't work go for the menzerna SIP/106FA combo. This would be for medium-to-heavy swirls(if needed).

You would apply the sealant first, then the wax. You had it reversed. Wolfgang DGPS is awsome. Apply 2 coats of that(12-24 hours between coats). Then top with a carnuba wax. Fuzion is a great high end wax. SSII and Dodo Juice diamond white would work good on white also.

Joshs2013MSAltimaSL
01-02-2009, 09:34 PM
As stated above, use Menzerna. Grab SIP and a white pad, if that doesn't remove your swirls, step up to an orange pad, then back over again with the white. After that, polish her up with a gray or blue pad and then seal her up with Pinnacle SSII, Souveran, or Natty's.

EddieNunez8620
01-02-2009, 10:34 PM
thanks for all the great response so far.

Another question.... Im in NYC... Temperature is in the 30's and 40's...

What is the coldest it is ok to wax?

vinnier6
01-02-2009, 11:27 PM
thanks for all the great response so far.

Another question.... Im in NYC... Temperature is in the 30's and 40's...

What is the coldest it is ok to wax?
there is a difference between waxing and polishing....polishing is the correction part of a full detail, waxing is the protection/sealing part after you do the hard work of correcting the damage done by improper carwashing...

your going to need a machine to do a correct polish, and the machine will aid in "waxing" in less time as well...

i prefer a synthetic sealant over a carnuba wax as for a daily driver it will give better protection for longer...

if you want your car done right, start by reading and watching the videos on this site, go to the store front, far left at the bottom there is a link under expert advice...auto detailing tips and tricks....start there and educate yourself and get ready to make a purchase...everything you need to know and purchase will be found right here....

EddieNunez8620
01-03-2009, 08:25 AM
So Im going to follow this instruction.......

Is it safe to take my car to a hand wash place?



i would personaly get some meguiars #2 light cut cleaner to gwet the light swirls then if there are still marks use meguiars #1 medium cut cleaner and fallow up with meguiars #9 swirl remover and lastly use either meguiars #26 high tech wax or wolfgang fuzion wax. this is what i have had experiance with and it will look amazing. if you want to spend alittle more mony instead of meguiars you can get menzerna polishes. i also recomend a porter cable polisher. and lake country foam ccs pads.
-kory:buffing:

akimel
01-03-2009, 10:56 AM
Hi, Eddie. The first question you need to answer is, "Am I willing to invest in a Dual Action Polisher and the necessary polishes and to spend the working hours that will be needed to remove swirls and scratches?" If the answer is yes, then, as noted by vinnier6 above, you should read through this site to educate yourself and then give AG customer service a call. They will set you up with the right machine/polish package.

But if you are not yet willing to go the machine polisher route, you can still work your car by hand and make it look shiny. I suggest that you purchase the following through AG:

1) Detailing clay bar. Claying your car will remove above-surface contaminants.

2) Meguiar's SwirlX (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-swirl-remover.html). It will clean your paint surface, remove light micro-scratches, and prepare the paint surface for wax. If it doesn't achieve a sufficient amount of correction, then you can supplement it with Ultimate Compound (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-compound.html). Both products may safely be applied either by hand or by D/A polisher.

3) Apply a synthetic sealant as your LSP ("last step product"). Sealants tend to look better on whites than carnauba waxes. I would recommend either Meguiar's NXT (http://www.autogeek.net/mg12718.html), Duragloss 105 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-total-performance-polish.html), or Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection (http://www.autogeek.net/four-star-ultimate-paint-protection.html). No need at this point to invest in a super-expensive wax. I bet you will be very pleased with the results.

Also, consider taking ownership of the washing your car yourself using [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7598756069207401372"]The Two-bucket Method[/video] You will thus minimize the instilling of new swirls into the paint surface of your car.

Cheers,
Al

rousher99
01-03-2009, 12:34 PM
So Im going to follow this instruction.......

Is it safe to take my car to a hand wash place?

i would not trust anyone washing unless they wash with atleast 3-4 buckets. just ask the place how the process goes and there equipment. i doubt it is going to be worth your money though. most the hand wash places use one bucket for the whole car including wheel wells , wheels and tires. if you cant find a place that offers good washing techniques buy some optimum no rinse wash and you should be set.
-kory

loudog2
01-03-2009, 01:00 PM
3) Apply a synthetic sealant as your LSP ("last step product"). Sealants tend to look better on whites than carnauba waxes. I would recommend either Meguiar's NXT (http://www.autogeek.net/mg12718.html), Duragloss 105 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-total-performance-polish.html), or Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection (http://www.autogeek.net/four-star-ultimate-paint-protection.html). No need at this point to invest in a super-expensive wax. I bet you will be very pleased with the results.

Cheers,
Al
Depends on what you are looking to achieve. I think wolfgang DGPS is the best sealant I've used IMO. It looks great by itself for all colors, and last forever. As for carnubas SSII, P21S 100%, diamond white, collinite 845 and a couple others look great on white. Even Souveran liquid w/polycharger. Plus, they are not that expensive.

EddieNunez8620
01-03-2009, 01:21 PM
I usually wash myself in the summer or with mild temperature. Not in the winter.



i would not trust anyone washing unless they wash with atleast 3-4 buckets. just ask the place how the process goes and there equipment. i doubt it is going to be worth your money though. most the hand wash places use one bucket for the whole car including wheel wells , wheels and tires. if you cant find a place that offers good washing techniques buy some optimum no rinse wash and you should be set.
-kory