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flatlinerz
02-23-2024, 09:47 PM
Hey guys

I'm looking for good car wash sio2 for maintaining my coating, I'm currently using Nanoskin CRYSTAL WASH SiO2 Fortified Hydrophobic Shampoo but I want something better, any suggestions? Thanks

opie
02-23-2024, 10:20 PM
Hey guys

I'm looking for good car wash sio2 for maintaining my coating, I'm currently using Nanoskin CRYSTAL WASH SiO2 Fortified Hydrophobic Shampoo but I want something better, any suggestions? ThanksI would recommend using a protection free wash solution/soap for maintaining a coating.

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Klasse Act
02-24-2024, 06:18 AM
I would recommend using a protection free wash solution/soap for maintaining a coating.

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Eric7810
02-25-2024, 07:54 AM
This is a discussion that always confused me.

Isn’t one of the great claims of ceramic coatings that they’re ph resistant and more durable than any other form of protection you can buy?

If that’s the case, how could any soap (even dish soap) harm it?

If merely a wrong car wash soap selection can degrade a ceramic coating then my chances of marketing this to my customers does not fair well.

This is why I never make longevity (3yr, 5yr..) claims to my coating customers.


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opie
02-25-2024, 08:14 AM
This is a discussion that always confused me.

Isn’t one of the great claims of ceramic coatings that they’re ph resistant and more durable than any other form of protection you can buy?

If that’s the case, how could any soap (even dish soap) harm it?

If merely a wrong car wash soap selection can degrade a ceramic coating then my chances of marketing this to my customers does not fair well.

This is why I never make longevity (3yr, 5yr..) claims to my coating customers.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI say to use protection free because those soaps with "protection" in them could mask the preformance properties of a coating. Just like using a ceramic spray sealant or a ceramic detail spray as drying aid or after a wash. It may not bead or shed water/contaminants like a bare coating might.

I tell folks that i coat vehicles for to use a soap with no protection in it ph neutral, and aslo depending on how much the vehicle is driven or used i may give them a sample bottle of a high ph soap to decon with after a certain amount of time(depending again on how exposed to elements).

If its always driven in crap weather/roads, i maytell them to use a high ph soap to wash with every wash. Its really just dependant on a each individual

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Optimus Grime
02-25-2024, 09:37 AM
This is a discussion that always confused me.

Isn’t one of the great claims of ceramic coatings that they’re ph resistant and more durable than any other form of protection you can buy?

If that’s the case, how could any soap (even dish soap) harm it?

If merely a wrong car wash soap selection can degrade a ceramic coating then my chances of marketing this to my customers does not fair well.

This is why I never make longevity (3yr, 5yr..) claims to my coating customers.


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I tell people to use Reset and avoid SiO2 infused soaps not because other soaps will degrade a coating. I tell them to avoid protection based soaps because the coating is already providing robust paint protection and there is no need to stack protection on protection when you’ve already got the best. Just get something that will effectively clean the car and let the coating do it’s thing.

Desertnate
02-26-2024, 09:13 AM
I would recommend using a protection free wash solution/soap for maintaining a coating.

Totally agree as well. Meguiars Hyperwash has been my favorite for maintaining a coating. After switching to Hyperwash I didn't need to do a decon wash with Reset a couple times a year.

opie
02-26-2024, 09:20 AM
Totally agree as well. Meguiars Hyperwash has been my favorite for maintaining a coating. After switching to Hyperwash I didn't need to do a decon wash with Reset a couple times a year.Never used hyoerwash, but have heard notging but good things about it.

Also, are you onky doing a decon wash with hyperwash and nothing else? Same goes for when you used reset?
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Coatingsarecrack
02-28-2024, 05:58 AM
Never used hyoerwash, but have heard notging but good things about it.

Also, are you onky doing a decon wash with hyperwash and nothing else? Same goes for when you used reset?
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Desertnate
02-28-2024, 08:44 AM
Never used hyoerwash, but have heard notging but good things about it.

Also, are you onky doing a decon wash with hyperwash and nothing else? Same goes for when you used reset?
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Not sure what you're asking.

When I was using other soaps, like Optimum Car Wash, I had to do a decon wash with Reset a couple times a year to revive the coating and get the water behavior back to where it should be. As long as I've been using Hyperwash, I just use it in my normal wash routine and never had to use Reset or any other stronger product to keep up the performance of the coating.

opie
02-28-2024, 09:35 AM
Not sure what you're asking.

When I was using other soaps, like Optimum Car Wash, I had to do a decon wash with Reset a couple times a year to revive the coating and get the water behavior back to where it should be. As long as I've been using Hyperwash, I just use it in my normal wash routine and never had to use Reset or any other stronger product to keep up the performance of the coating.Sorry pal, i think i might have sent that as i was half asleep lol.

I have heard good things about hyperwash but i have never used it.

Yes you answered my question.

I up until now thought that a decon wash involved using high ph,low ph, iron remover then ph neutral soap.

So i was a bit confused when you were saying you used reset only as your decon wash, since its ph neutral.

Even though i rarely ever regular bucket washes, i will have to get a jug and try it out for myself.

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opie
02-28-2024, 09:36 AM
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFalling asleep texting lol

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Optimus Grime
02-28-2024, 12:25 PM
Sorry pal, i think i might have sent that as i was half asleep lol.

I up until now thought that a decon wash involved using high ph,low ph, iron remover then ph neutral soap.

So i was a bit confused when you were saying you used reset only as your decon wash, since its ph neutral.



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I was thinking the same thing. Reset is my go to for regular maintenance washes. My decon washes consist of Auto Foam/Touchless, Descale and then Reset.

Desertnate
02-28-2024, 01:25 PM
I up until now thought that a decon wash involved using high ph,low ph, iron remover then ph neutral soap.

So i was a bit confused when you were saying you used reset only as your decon wash, since its ph neutral.


I was thinking the same thing. Reset is my go to for regular maintenance washes. My decon washes consist of Auto Foam/Touchless, Descale and then Reset.

It was years ago when I last did a "decon" wash. I'm not sure some of the products like Lift, Descale, and other stronger products were around. While Reset may be pH neutral, it's cleaning power was significantly stronger than the Optimum Car Wash, and there was a noticeable difference in a coated car when using Reset. It may but gentle compared to other products out now, but it did the job.

I really liked Reset, but it's way to expensive for me to use as a daily wash product. I can use Hyperwash with the same outcome under my conditions for substantially less.

Optimus Grime
02-28-2024, 01:55 PM
It was years ago when I last did a "decon" wash. I'm not sure some of the products like Lift, Descale, and other stronger products were around. While Reset may be pH neutral, it's cleaning power was significantly stronger than the Optimum Car Wash, and there was a noticeable difference in a coated car when using Reset. It may but gentle compared to other products out now, but it did the job.

I really liked Reset, but it's way to expensive for me to use as a daily wash product. I can use Hyperwash with the same outcome under my conditions for substantially less.

If you're the type of person that will wash on a regular basis using something like Reset you'll probably never need to do a decon wash. I had a customer refer his friend to me so I gave him a free decon wash which proved to be unnecessary. He washed frequently with Reset and G Wash and his coating was beading water like I installed it the day before.

Reset is a bit on the expensive side but I get it for wholesale and considering how little of it I use per wash, it's worth it to me. I've got 2.5 gallons in my garage that will probably last me until I start collecting social security.