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Cls89
02-18-2024, 01:01 PM
1. Looking for recommendations on an interior APC that can be used occasionally for deep cleaning and a quick interior detailer that can be used in between deep cleanings.

2. I would like both the APC and quick detailer to be safe on all interior surfaces including leather.

3. I would like both the APC and quick detailer to wipe off easily and not leave excess residue.

Any recommendations would be appreciated


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Klasse Act
02-18-2024, 01:34 PM
Optimum Power Clean at about 3:1-5:1 for most interior cleanings and DIY Detail Clean and Protect for interior detailer, Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions has a nice interior detailer too[emoji106][emoji106]

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Coatingsarecrack
02-19-2024, 01:47 AM
I personally would use a dedicated Leather cleaner for leather like Conolly’s, Leather Honey, PBL, P&S Xpress.

I prefer express and leather honey.

But as you asked I use Bilt Hamber surfex as my APC. Can be used 1:99 1:49 (strong stuff) for interiors.


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DFB
02-19-2024, 02:08 AM
I won't use alkaline APC's on interiors now that I know the damage they can cause.

Something like P&S Express or Griot's Interior Cleaner are effective, safe, pH neutral products that can be used across most interior surfaces, including leather. I really like Express because works well in a spray and wipe manner but can be ramped up with some agitation.

https://i.postimg.cc/cHXngwc1/IMG-1289.jpg (https://postimg.cc/S2YsHX5H)

For an interior detailer, there are plenty on the market now. Megs Quick Interior Detailer is readily available and a great product, although I find the scent odd. I much prefer Carpro InnerQD, but if you want a more obvious before and after, then look at P&S Swift. Having said that, pretty much any rinse-less wash can be used as an interior detailer, cheaper too. I like ONR for this role.

P&S Swift Clean & Shine (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/132925-p-s-swift-clean-shine.html)

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs0KYPBH/IMG-E8374.jpg (https://postimg.cc/cr4WjcWp)

https://i.postimg.cc/fRbh54DF/IMG-0735.jpg (https://postimg.cc/w7nPTGtc)

Klasse Act
02-19-2024, 06:25 AM
Yeah my ratio amount is too high for the products mentioned (OPC & Surfex), I'd go 10:1 for routine cleanings unless your working on some disaster area, then 5:1 for sure but like mentioned previously, lots a great, pre-made products on the market right now from Griot's Garage, DIY and Gyeon[emoji362]

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briarpatch
02-19-2024, 07:23 AM
Griots Interior Cleaner for the tough stuff

P&S Express for the normal stuff

Chamberlains for the leather

MisterSnoop
02-19-2024, 08:16 AM
I agree with DFB. I might try diluted APC if diluted P&S Xpress or straight P&S Xpress couldn't handle something. Seems like APC is ok on interiors until it isn't. Diluting doesn't lower pH as much as you think it would.

PA DETAILER
02-19-2024, 10:20 AM
I have found 303 interior cleaner a good product.
303 All Surface Interior Cleaner (https://www.autogeek.net/303-all-surface-interior-cleaner.html)
Anyone of the interior QD would do fine.

I have switched to CERAMIC interior protection myself.

Cls89
02-19-2024, 02:06 PM
I won't use alkaline APC's on interiors now that I know the damage they can cause.

Something like P&S Express or Griot's Interior Cleaner are effective, safe, pH neutral products that can be used across most interior surfaces, including leather. I really like Express because works well in a spray and wipe manner but can be ramped up with some agitation.

https://i.postimg.cc/cHXngwc1/IMG-1289.jpg (https://postimg.cc/S2YsHX5H)

For an interior detailer, there are plenty on the market now. Megs Quick Interior Detailer is readily available and a great product, although I find the scent odd. I much prefer Carpro InnerQD, but if you want a more obvious before and after, then look at P&S Swift. Having said that, pretty much any rinse-less wash can be used as an interior detailer, cheaper too. I like ONR for this role.

P&S Swift Clean & Shine (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/132925-p-s-swift-clean-shine.html)

https://i.postimg.cc/Fs0KYPBH/IMG-E8374.jpg (https://postimg.cc/cr4WjcWp)

https://i.postimg.cc/fRbh54DF/IMG-0735.jpg (https://postimg.cc/w7nPTGtc)

I appreciate all the feedback. Ok on the topic of APC’s, I’ve heard of P&S Express and that it is one of the safer APC’s to use on a vehicles interior especially when diluted 1:1. I’ve also been looking at an APC by a company called KOCH CHEMO, the product is green star. From what I’ve gathered this product is a great cleaner, but very potent, so interior cleaning would require a 1:20 dilution ratio. Anyone have any experience with this APC? Specifically with interior usage?

KOCHCHEMIE Green Star - Highly Concentrated Universal Cleaner; Phosphate and Solvent Free, Auto Interiors and Exteriors, Engine Cleaning, Commercial and Industrial Use (5 Liters) https://a.co/d/3f7Vg6P


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DanaDetailingPros
02-19-2024, 05:50 PM
BH Surfex. Surfex Like Crack said! Should be available soon at Obsessed garage.

DFB
02-20-2024, 12:59 AM
I appreciate all the feedback. Ok on the topic of APC’s, I’ve heard of P&S Express and that it is one of the safer APC’s to use on a vehicles interior especially when diluted 1:1. I’ve also been looking at an APC by a company called KOCH CHEMO, the product is green star. From what I’ve gathered this product is a great cleaner, but very potent, so interior cleaning would require a 1:20 dilution ratio. Anyone have any experience with this APC? Specifically with interior usage?

KOCHCHEMIE Green Star - Highly Concentrated Universal Cleaner; Phosphate and Solvent Free, Auto Interiors and Exteriors, Engine Cleaning, Commercial and Industrial Use (5 Liters) https://a.co/d/3f7Vg6P


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The thing with P&S Express is that it's pH neutral, which limits the chance of turning your interior to chalk with prolonged use.

Green Star is a brilliant product and has been my chosen APC for many years. But it's very alkaline with a pH of 12.5. Even when diluted, you just don't need that on interiors.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y2Vk3JHv/IMG-0199.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4ndcp4b)

For interior cleaning, including fabric, Alcantara, leather, plastic and vinyl, the better choice from KCx would be Pol Star. This is a pH neutral cleaner and can do some serious cleaning..............safely. It's been my bulk leather cleaner for a while now, but as mentioned, is suitable for all interior surfaces.

https://i.postimg.cc/hvJw6zGg/IMG-2997.jpg (https://postimg.cc/sGrwZ2S0)

https://i.postimg.cc/dQrfnNPw/IMG-0558.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jCqvSXSF)

https://i.postimg.cc/hvL3jvbf/IMG-0562.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1VzK79dQ)

I will say though, I was told that Koch Chemie like to stay conservative with interior cleaning, and typically suggest using ASC (All-Surface-Cleaner) around buttons, switches ect. ASC is more of an interior detailer and the IPA content helps evaporate moisture/residue away from electronics.

https://i.postimg.cc/jqDsfDLD/IMG-4984.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rzLXXFGT)

DFB
02-20-2024, 01:03 AM
I agree with DFB. I might try diluted APC if diluted P&S Xpress or straight P&S Xpress couldn't handle something. Seems like APC is ok on interiors until it isn't. Diluting doesn't lower pH as much as you think it would.

I see so many Youtubers hosing interiors down with APC, sometimes blasted with steam in the process, and shudder at what could happen. Granted, some of those interiors are filthy, but they are also quite often older interiors with 10-20 years of age on them. You can be sure they won't be showing before and after shots of an interior turned white after using APC.

Coatingsarecrack
02-20-2024, 01:19 AM
I agree with DFB. I might try diluted APC if diluted P&S Xpress or straight P&S Xpress couldn't handle something. Seems like APC is ok on interiors until it isn't. Diluting doesn't lower pH as much as you think it would.


I see so many Youtubers hosing interiors down with APC, sometimes blasted with steam in the process, and shudder at what could happen. Granted, some of those interiors are filthy, but they are also quite often older interiors with 10-20 years of age on them. You can be sure they won't be showing before and after shots of an interior turned white after using APC.

Wonder what Surfex (ph14) diluted 1:100 ph level would be.


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DanaDetailingPros
02-20-2024, 01:19 AM
The thing with P&S Express is that it's pH neutral, which limits the chance of turning your interior to chalk with prolonged use.

Green Star is a brilliant product and has been my chosen APC for many years. But it's very alkaline with a pH of 12.5. Even when diluted, you just don't need that on interiors.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y2Vk3JHv/IMG-0199.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4ndcp4b)

For interior cleaning, including fabric, Alcantara, leather, plastic and vinyl, the better choice from KCx would be Pol Star. This is a pH neutral cleaner and can do some serious cleaning..............safely. It's been my bulk leather cleaner for a while now, but as mentioned, is suitable for all interior surfaces.

https://i.postimg.cc/hvJw6zGg/IMG-2997.jpg (https://postimg.cc/sGrwZ2S0)

https://i.postimg.cc/dQrfnNPw/IMG-0558.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jCqvSXSF)

https://i.postimg.cc/hvL3jvbf/IMG-0562.jpg (https://postimg.cc/1VzK79dQ)

I will say though, I was told that Koch Chemie like to stay conservative with interior cleaning, and typically suggest using ASC (All-Surface-Cleaner) around buttons, switches ect. ASC is more of an interior detailer and the IPA content helps evaporate moisture/residue away from electronics.

https://i.postimg.cc/jqDsfDLD/IMG-4984.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rzLXXFGT)

I had a recent 2022 S560 with energy drink spilled from the cup holder which is a know problem on those car with the Alcanta right next to the drink holder.I used Pol Star and it took it off like butter and dried up beautifully

MisterSnoop
02-20-2024, 07:31 AM
Wonder what Surfex (ph14) diluted 1:100 ph level would be.


Looks like Surfex is 13.25 pH. It would be 11.25 pH if diluted 100:1. I built a Google Sheets calculator for dilution pH and PIR.