Koch Chemie FSE and Water Spot discussion thread

[Coatingsarecrack]

So decided to try as it didn’t cost anymore shipping to get it while I’ll I ordered my Angel Wax H2gO.


Product worked well on glass on some stubborn water spots on glass that haven’t been removed by bucket wash with Descale, Tac Systems Mystic bubble and BH AutoFoam.

No rinsless including pure removed them either.

After cleaned twice with invisible glass.

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FSE applied and let dwell for couple minutes

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All spots removed! What left is glass imperfections… product worked well on tough/stubborn stains on glass.

Now onto paint that will need polishing to remove waterspots. Just wanted to give it a tough test.

Actually did a decent job of removing a lot although still needs polish.

After Mckee’s N-914 wipe down

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After to applications of FSE

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/9a96fb31205ec622f16725611ab2b192.jpg

All in all this stuff works! Not gonna move tough water spots that need polishing but will remove ALOT of the deposits. Nice before polishing.

I have Spotless 2.0 to try but it seems to be more finicky to use.

What all do you use to tackle light and tough spots?


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[DanaDetailingPros]

Pro Water Spot Remover (https://cougarchemical.com/products/pro-water-spot-remover)
I've been using this for 2 decades and it's been incredible. It takes spots off all the way down to the paint. It smells a bit like photo developing chemicals. it spreads like a soapy residue and it melts them away like butter!

[opie]

Besides polishing, personally i would try descale. If theres a better product out there im all ears

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[Coatingsarecrack]

Besides polishing, personally i would try descale. If theres a better product out there im all ears

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Tried descale. Didn’t do much if any. Half way through 16oz bottle and personally I’m not impressed.


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[opie]

Tried descale. Didn’t do much if any. Half way through 16oz bottle and personally I’m not impressed.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkInteresting. Ive found it to work well for me, but onky a real difference if you use it as a bucket wash.

Maybe its just cuz we live on oposite ends of the country lol

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[Gridlink]

Tried descale. Didn’t do much if any. Half way through 16oz bottle and personally I’m not impressed.


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Descale and Lift were both very unimpressive for me. They did very little to help bring back hydrophobics to a fairly fresh coating after an upstate NY winter. Labocosmetica's Primus and Purifica were significantly better and actually did revive a good portion of the coating.

[Coatingsarecrack]

Interesting. Ive found it to work well for me, but onky a real difference if you use it as a bucket wash.

Maybe its just cuz we live on oposite ends of the country lol

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I also did apply with foam cannon. Contact washed but maybe my dilution was off. I’ll try in a bucket next time.

Also could have been coating was dead [emoji2369]


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[Coatingsarecrack]

Descale and Lift were both very unimpressive for me. They did very little to help bring back hydrophobics to a fairly fresh coating after an upstate NY winter. Labocosmetica's Primus and Purifica were significantly better and actually did revive a good portion of the coating.

Those on the list when descale is out.


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[opie]

I also did apply with foam cannon. Contact washed but maybe my dilution was off. I’ll try in a bucket next time.

Also could have been coating was dead [emoji2369]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWho knows man. I followed the dilution on the bottle. Imo its only effective in a bucket wash

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[Game]

I found Gyeon’s Water spot remover to be pretty good.

I used descale (bucket) to remove my water spots and just found myself using the Gyeon product to get them out. I learned I have very hard water so not positive if the rinse post descale left new water spots or the descale was ineffective.

[noorth]

So decided to try as it didn’t cost anymore shipping to get it while I’ll I ordered my Angel Wax H2gO.


Product worked well on glass on some stubborn water spots on glass that haven’t been removed by bucket wash with Descale, Tac Systems Mystic bubble and BH AutoFoam.

No rinsless including pure removed them either.

After cleaned twice with invisible glass.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/83eda3afe77259c2c22cbd8b8ac4ba37.jpg

FSE applied and let dwell for couple minutes

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/44e65322034f48056f4b3ff7568d65a0.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/c583c2486ce583843c24e880cf8dad7d.jpg

All spots removed! What left is glass imperfections… product worked well on tough/stubborn stains on glass.

Now onto paint that will need polishing to remove waterspots. Just wanted to give it a tough test.

Actually did a decent job of removing a lot although still needs polish.

After Mckee’s N-914 wipe down

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/6a26dda941c74b2d5960d61215628ad7.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/9f39a330219c28bb017cad77434c137b.jpg

After to applications of FSE

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230621/9a96fb31205ec622f16725611ab2b192.jpg

All in all this stuff works! Not gonna move tough water spots that need polishing but will remove ALOT of the deposits. Nice before polishing.

I have Spotless 2.0 to try but it seems to be more finicky to use.

What all do you use to tackle light and tough spots?


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Seems KCX makes some top of the line products. Greenstar, polstar, gummix, polishes and compunds, GSF etc

Anyhow, recently i seen an experienced detailer recommending megs white brighter cut 1:3.

I might pick up an acid cleaner someday and try it.

[noorth]

Descale and Lift were both very unimpressive for me. They did very little to help bring back hydrophobics to a fairly fresh coating after an upstate NY winter. Labocosmetica's Primus and Purifica were significantly better and actually did revive a good portion of the coating.

Lift is not very good IMO. Primus is way better and cheaper for me. They also have a great write up on ways to use it on the main site.

Labocosmetica's washing chemicals are top shelf. For the price, dilution ratio's and versatility of many of their cleaning/decon chemicals i think they are properly the best on the market - that i'm aware of. If i was a pro i would be trying all their concentrates. Maybe not the APC. It's not the greatest value.

[Coatingsarecrack]

Anyone try Suds Factory? The one for paint…


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