Provide a critical review of this cars paint

[Eldorado2k]

Hey guys, I need some opinions here regarding this car that someone posted on another site. 1st time poster so I’m not looking to be rude or anything, but I did point out that I couldn’t fully agree with it being a “creampuff” in near original condition based on my observation of the paint based on this photo. Am I seeing this wrong? Or what’s your observation? Near perfect paint? Or?

Please reply if you see this post. Thx.

1987 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham.

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[2black1s]

It's impossible to really assess that paint without seeing it in person...

But from what I can see in the pic there are:

- Dull Areas
- Color Mismatch between Fender & Door

[Eldorado2k]

Above the front headlight and the rear quarter panel, right? It’s pretty much clear as day huh? Lol.

He put up a Strong denial and said no way that car has lived a pampered life family owned and all.[emoji2]
Hey I’m not gonna step on the guys toes after that, plus he’s actually posting quite a bit and seems genuinely interested in asking about mechanical advice regarding his car and I’d rather see a car guy be happy and enjoy his car.

I just wanted to bounce some thoughts real quick. Cheers.

[Karl_in_Chicago]

Maybe a creampuff mechanically, who knows, but - and from one very bad photo in bad light - that paint could definitely benefit from some work. Better (and more) photos from different angles in better light would go a long way, obviously, but IMO it sure appears to need a good amount of correction.

[vaced]

Also towards front-middle of hood. basically, anywhere the light shines direct seems washed out. But maybe its just got a bunch of swirls, which seems like only a minor issue to me, especially if its actually original paint.

[PaulMys]

I've got this, Ric.

Here's what you say:


"Your paint looks like 10 pounds of sh!t in a 5 pound bag".


Then call him "Snapper-head".


:laughing::laughing::laughing:

[Eldorado2k]

Just for sh!ts & giggles, here’s how the convo played out earlier today.

This 1st post is a 2 for 1 because he quotes his earlier post.

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After hearing that and seeing the picture, of course you know I had to say Something, I’m not just gonna not say nothing. Lol. But still, trying to be respectful of course. Also: I legit mistook the car for being 45yrs. old, when it’s actually 35ish yrs old. Honest mistake, can you blame me? Lol.

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Here’s where he says the cars in the same shape it was when his parents bought it brand new 36yrs. ago… I can assure you Cadillac never sold cars with paint looking like that.[emoji2287]lol.

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And this last related post somewhat felt like a slap to the back of my head. Mind you these dudes know damn well I detail cars and know what I’m looking at when I see it. I’m like the only person on there who really knows how we know about detailing. But as if I don’t exist he goes and says this.[emoji23]lol.
“Well taken care of” Smh. Umm nevermind the paint being all faded & rough, but don’t mind me I must not know what the heck I’m talking about. Lol.

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All these posts happened in succession.[emoji4]

[Karl_in_Chicago]

Just Brougham, not Fleetwood Brougham, not in '87. It's nice they've kept it on the road and all but . . . that era of cars in general, and Detroit especially, wasn't one I recall fondly. Manufacturers were still reeling from EPA reg's they'd yet to figure out so motors were strangled but they were still building big boats like this (because demand was still there) that had to be powered by seriously neutered powerplants. Over 2 tons of car with under 200 HP under the hood . . .
Still, LOTS of room for multiple sets of golf clubs AND a few bodies (AND shovels!) in the trunk plus a plush ride and it was good for its time when compared against the other luxo-barges on the market. I wonder what it would be like freshened up with some 21st century suspension and an LS* powerplant.

[Eldorado2k]

Just Brougham, not Fleetwood Brougham, not in '87. It's nice they've kept it on the road and all but . . . that era of cars in general, and Detroit especially, wasn't one I recall fondly. Manufacturers were still reeling from EPA reg's they'd yet to figure out so motors were strangled but they were still building big boats like this (because demand was still there) that had to be powered by seriously neutered powerplants. Over 2 tons of car with under 200 HP under the hood . . .
Still, LOTS of room for multiple sets of golf clubs AND a few bodies (AND shovels!) in the trunk plus a plush ride and it was good for its time when compared against the other luxo-barges on the market. I wonder what it would be like freshened up with some 21st century suspension and an LS* powerplant.

I stand corrected. Not too shabby for an era you don’t recall too fondly.[emoji57]

Karl_in_Chicago. Are you the long lost 3rd Blues Brother or something? Lol. Nice to meet you.[emoji1666]

[Karl_in_Chicago]

The 80's was when I finally achieved enough financial wherewithal to buy a *new* car but there just wasn't much worth buying, LOL, so that's why I don't have real fond memories of vehicles of that era. I *did* buy a (new) 1982 Rabbit diesel (5-speed!), 2 door which I loved (and I was probably the only one). Fun to drive, easy city parking and ~50 mpg to boot. Detroit just fell into a real funk for a couple decades, sadly, as I loved the 60's and 70's stuff. My best friend in HS (70's) had a 60's Impala and one of my best friends in college bought a used '66 Continental. It was in great shape just some fairly oxidized paint and chrome. I showed him the power of polishing compound (by hand, power tools were strange and expensive things far beyond our reach) and Simichrome and we brought that thing back to its rightful glory. Hand polishing a million square feet of sheet metal in the Alabama summer today would kill me, LOL. When we were done the only defect on that car was the one that caused the seller to part with it. While I love suicide doors to this day the rear inside door handle on this model was positioned right in front of the armrest; your hand just naturally fell onto it if your arm was on the armrest. Story told to my buddy was that grandma in the backseat couldn't hear the front seat convo so tried to lean forward and accidentally pulled on the handle; door opened, at speed, and immediately flipped all the way back permanently creasing the sheet metal behind the hinge (and, no, I don't know grandma's fate). The paint was fine but fixing that crease was way beyond our skills or budget and it made a great story so we left it alone. Was a deep maroon with a bunch of chrome and some sharp whitewalls. Good times, good times.

[Eldorado2k]

(and, no, I don't know grandma's fate).

Perhaps grandma wound up similar to this once the door opened? Lol

FUNNY TRACKHAWK PRANK??HE WASNT READY?(FULLBLOWN PERFORMANCE) - YouTube (https://youtube.com/shorts/MrXPfB1e2ww?feature=share)

[Coatingsarecrack]

I would have asked to see more pictures of paint up close.

From what I can see:

It’s a low mile cream puff with eczema…


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[Flash Gordon]

Drivers fender has definitely been repainted. The hood needs compounding. If the owner believes it's a creampuff I would go ahead and let him/her keep thinking that.

Looks like a sweet ride other than that

[Tasmania]

Paint is a bit off colour on some panels, but over all a well presented car, but far from MINT condition in my opinion.

[Desertnate]

People may define "cream puff" in different ways.

Yes, it is low mileage and is probably in perfect mechanical shape from an owner who religiously followed the service schedule for the car, and likely exceeded it. The interior could be immaculate as well from an owner who was gentle with it and always kept it clean (i.e. never hauled small children on a cross country road trip). They may have even washed it routinely. To the masses, that's a cream puff.

I wonder if the color mis-match and the dull spots on the hood, front facia is simply from sun damage and time. This isn't a new car, and those malise-era GM vehicles didn't have the best quality paint. I remember my parents '73 Impala station wagon having paint that was total crap and needed to be repainted after only 10-ish years of ownership. It was badly faded in places and the clearcoat failed in others.

This car is likely in totally original condition, but in dire need of a good detailing to restore the paint and hopefully not a re-spray to fix the areas its failing.

For a 36-year old car that has probably never been detailed professionally or really had something beyond routine care, I'd say it's in really good shape. However, closer examination of that actual paint would be needed to see if the defects are age or a bad re-spray...or both.