ddsski
08-06-2022, 07:50 AM
Ok, so after a 25+yr duration, this past spring I sold the rst of my old Collinite 845. The reason was simple. The look/protection of BlackfireAIO/Blackfire SiO2 competed successfully with Blackfire AIO/Collinite 845. aside: I now know to wipe down car with Iso prep before adding any SiO2.
So for years I have had a few quick detail toppers . My favorite has always been Griots Best of Show. Bullet proof easy, NEVER any issues. Pinnacle could streak, Mother's best of Show was great , the Griots was better. It was an easy life, wax goes on wax.
Now i am finaally in Ceramic world and have tried 3 different products, all very sucessfully
1. Blackfire SiO2 (my first product)
2. Griots 3in 1 Ceramic (stupid easy!!)
3 Gyeon Can Coat Evo (quickly learned this is just like the old 845, LESS IS MORE!!)
I see in many videos that what you put on top is what you see, what beading level you get etc.
Therefore, would I be correct to assume that , while it can be done, Griot's Best of Show use should be discontinued as putting Wax over Ceramic defeats the purpose?
So 3+ questions to be discussed.
1. Blackfire SiO2...best topper for dust removal?? Griots 3 in1?
2. Griots 3in 1, just use it lightly as a topper also for routine dust offs?
3. Gyeon Can Coat Evo...THIS STUFF IS AMAZING! ON A SOLAR YELLOW LOTUS EVORA!! This vehicle was just done a few weeks back and has just had a Swiffer duster touch it. Would the Griots be good here also?
or , is there a more appropriate quick ceramic detailer on any of these surfaces. I took far too long to convert. Not ready for hardcore Ceramics yet as these spray finishes are just so damn easy, who cares if its only 6 months...which will never happen cuz they get topped all the time. Range Rover gets corrected every spring after a rough winter. track cars periodically get corrected cuz...well its a track! As usual, there are too many choices out there with massive amounts of overlap. The only thing I get is the lack of necessity to routinely apply the Gyeon CCE. Even the Blackfire is so damn easy, after a good wash, I reapplied a few times. I most recently tried the Griots 3 in 1 over the Blackfire.....Impressive indeed.
I don't want to get into eveyone's 20 step pre ceramic correction ritual. I already found Iron remover to be useless on a routinely cleaned car. Gyeon never changed color on a track car after I washed it with good old Meguiars Gold Class except a few wheel well edges minmally...and this is while running Pagid RSL29's!! I don't park under trees and car is garaged so clay is just too much panel fondling for me. It is obvious many pro detailers get some pretty damn dirty cars to correct!!
So for years I have had a few quick detail toppers . My favorite has always been Griots Best of Show. Bullet proof easy, NEVER any issues. Pinnacle could streak, Mother's best of Show was great , the Griots was better. It was an easy life, wax goes on wax.
Now i am finaally in Ceramic world and have tried 3 different products, all very sucessfully
1. Blackfire SiO2 (my first product)
2. Griots 3in 1 Ceramic (stupid easy!!)
3 Gyeon Can Coat Evo (quickly learned this is just like the old 845, LESS IS MORE!!)
I see in many videos that what you put on top is what you see, what beading level you get etc.
Therefore, would I be correct to assume that , while it can be done, Griot's Best of Show use should be discontinued as putting Wax over Ceramic defeats the purpose?
So 3+ questions to be discussed.
1. Blackfire SiO2...best topper for dust removal?? Griots 3 in1?
2. Griots 3in 1, just use it lightly as a topper also for routine dust offs?
3. Gyeon Can Coat Evo...THIS STUFF IS AMAZING! ON A SOLAR YELLOW LOTUS EVORA!! This vehicle was just done a few weeks back and has just had a Swiffer duster touch it. Would the Griots be good here also?
or , is there a more appropriate quick ceramic detailer on any of these surfaces. I took far too long to convert. Not ready for hardcore Ceramics yet as these spray finishes are just so damn easy, who cares if its only 6 months...which will never happen cuz they get topped all the time. Range Rover gets corrected every spring after a rough winter. track cars periodically get corrected cuz...well its a track! As usual, there are too many choices out there with massive amounts of overlap. The only thing I get is the lack of necessity to routinely apply the Gyeon CCE. Even the Blackfire is so damn easy, after a good wash, I reapplied a few times. I most recently tried the Griots 3 in 1 over the Blackfire.....Impressive indeed.
I don't want to get into eveyone's 20 step pre ceramic correction ritual. I already found Iron remover to be useless on a routinely cleaned car. Gyeon never changed color on a track car after I washed it with good old Meguiars Gold Class except a few wheel well edges minmally...and this is while running Pagid RSL29's!! I don't park under trees and car is garaged so clay is just too much panel fondling for me. It is obvious many pro detailers get some pretty damn dirty cars to correct!!