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ptcary
08-09-2021, 02:58 PM
Need some advice on deep cleaning this black plastic chin spoiler as well as the grill wiper cowl, and fog light surrounds. 2014 Mustang. This is after Megs APC 10:1. I don’t really know if it is dirt or dried wax. I want to get this trim cleaner, then plan to try Pinnacle Black Label Trim Restore.

Do you guys think 4:1 would have worked better? Should I just go over it again? Anything else better for cleaning plastic trim?

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The Guz
08-09-2021, 04:21 PM
Meguiar’s M39 does a good job at cleaning trim and removing wax from the trim. Blackfire wax remover also does a good job at removing old wax from trim.

Have you tried following up with some IPA or a panel prep?

PBL trim restorer should work well to bring some life back into it.

ptcary
08-09-2021, 08:51 PM
Meguiar’s M39 does a good job at cleaning trim and removing wax from the trim. Blackfire wax remover also does a good job at removing old wax from trim.

Have you tried following up with some IPA or a panel prep?

PBL trim restorer should work well to bring some life back into it.

M39 did less to it than Megs APC at 10:1. 70% IPA As well as Gyeon Prep didn’t make much of a difference either. License plate mount is similar so took that off today and will work on that until I figure it out. Gonna run that sucker through the dishwasher in the top rack just to see what that does for it!

The Guz
08-09-2021, 08:55 PM
Then try a small spot with the coating or invest in solution finish as it’s a true trim restorer.

Coatingsarecrack
08-10-2021, 04:28 AM
Try the blackfire wax remover.


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ptcary
08-10-2021, 04:29 PM
You guys think that Pinnacle Black Label Trim Restore would hide this?

briarpatch
08-10-2021, 04:45 PM
I prep mine with Car Pro Eraser

Eldorado2k
08-10-2021, 05:00 PM
I’m in the middle of detailing a late model Nissan Armada. The trim is faded so I’m also trying to see what I can do to prep..

I did a test spot with Mothers Heavy Duty Trim cleaner yesterday. This is what it looked like early this morning.

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A few hours later. Totally dry, you can bearly see a difference.

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Blackfire Wax Remover.

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40min. later. Minimal difference, almost like the cleaner leaves something behind. Not a bad thing though.

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Also, for a test I applied McKee’s Plastic Trim Restorer on a section without pre cleaning [other than a bucket wash] and let it set overnight.

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Today I applied a fresh coat to compare it to yesterdays coat… And this is my biggest problem with this product. Look how much it lost in less than 24hrs.

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Just 40min. later and look at how much it’s already lost… This product and WETS is so overrated.

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My conclusion: The trim is already clean. Just apply your product. Hopefully you’ve got something much better than I’ve got on hand.

dgage
08-10-2021, 05:18 PM
Just like real leather, deteoriated plastic needs nourishment so I'd recommend keep coating until you don't notice a change. You're not dealing with longevity here, you're dealing with "malnourished" plastic. Once the plastic doesn't change the look much, then you need to worry about longevity. But for what you're doing, I'd recommend getting Solution Finish as it is made for restoring plastic and designed by a plastic/trim guru. Solution Finish doesn't last that long (weeks) so I'd recommend getting the new Solution Finish Over the Top or Pinnacle Ceramic Trim Restorer to protect Solution Finish for 6+ months. That should have your trim looking its best.

Eldorado2k
08-10-2021, 05:19 PM
Just like real leather, deteoriated plastic needs nourishment so I'd recommend keep coating until you don't notice a change. You're not dealing with longevity here, you're dealing with "malnourished" plastic. Once the plastic doesn't change the look much, then you need to worry about longevity. But for what you're doing, I'd recommend getting Solution Finish as it is made for restoring plastic and designed by a plastic/trim guru. Solution Finish doesn't last that long (weeks) so I'd recommend getting the new Solution Finish Over the Top or Pinnacle Ceramic Trim Restorer to protect Solution Finish for 6+ months. That should have your trim looking its best.

You talkin to me? If so, what color would you say that trim is originally, grey or black Solution Finish?

Rsurfer
08-10-2021, 06:04 PM
[QUOTE=Eldorado2k;1724149]

Nice review, never had a problem with WETS. So I don't think it's overrated.

dgage
08-10-2021, 07:03 PM
You talkin to me? If so, what color would you say that trim is originally, grey or black Solution Finish?

Didn’t realize it was you when I was first responding and thought of modifying after seeing who I was responding to but still good info I think/hope. Regarding color, that looks like gray trim but I think it should be black. :)

PaulMys
08-10-2021, 07:12 PM
Just like real leather, deteoriated plastic needs nourishment so I'd recommend keep coating until you don't notice a change. You're not dealing with longevity here, you're dealing with "malnourished" plastic. Once the plastic doesn't change the look much, then you need to worry about longevity. But for what you're doing, I'd recommend getting Solution Finish as it is made for restoring plastic and designed by a plastic/trim guru. Solution Finish doesn't last that long (weeks) so I'd recommend getting the new Solution Finish Over the Top or Pinnacle Ceramic Trim Restorer to protect Solution Finish for 6+ months. That should have your trim looking its best.


You talkin to me? If so, what color would you say that trim is originally, grey or black Solution Finish?

I'm gonna make you two hold hands in the corner. :laughing::laughing:

FUNX650
08-10-2021, 08:21 PM
I don’t really know if it is dirt
or dried wax.

I want to get this trim cleaner.. .

From here…
It looks like Meg’s APC got it
fairly clean.

Now, to get it even cleaner:
I’d follow-up with McKee's 37
Wax Remover for Plastic.


Bob

Eldorado2k
08-10-2021, 09:58 PM
I'm gonna make you two hold hands in the corner. :laughing::laughing:

What do you mean? There was nothing wrong. Lol.


Regarding color, that looks like gray trim but I think it should be black. :)

Yea that trim is weird, it looks like it could be grey, but then it darkens so much that it looks like it should be black.[emoji2962]

I’m going to try layering it like you suggested.