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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-15-2021, 08:50 AM
Hey guys, I have a vehicle in the shop today for a maintenance wash that I've previously coated with the 303 Graphine Nano Spray Coating

I'm planning on a rinseless wash with the Wolfgang Uber SiO2 Rinseless Wash, and was hoping to spruce up the coating with the DP Graphine Quick Detailer.

1. What are your thoughts on this process as the WG Uber SiO2 Rinseless Wash Contains SiO2?

2. Does anyone know of a quality GRAPHINE rinseless wash I can use on graphine coated surfaces?


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Mike Phillips
07-15-2021, 09:01 AM
I's say go for the plan you outlined.

Or at least test the 2-step approach. Wash with the rinseless and then TEST the detailer on the trunk lid. IF it works great finish car. IF it doesn't go to plan B.


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The Guz
07-15-2021, 11:18 AM
You don't need to use anything after the rinseless. You are good to go just with that alone. Also graphene products are still ceramic based so any ceramic/SiO2 is going to work on them just fine.

dgage
07-15-2021, 04:59 PM
On my car right now is Uber SiO2 Rinseless and nothing else since I haven’t had time to polish and put on UK 3.0/SiC. It’s been over a month since the last time I used Uber SiO2 Rinseless as I’ve used Reset and N-914 more recently. Washed yesterday with Gyeon Bathe that I had as I needed to quickly get off some bird droppings and it still beaded great from just Uber SiO2 Rinseless. So you could top with the others for many months of protection but Uber should give a couple months with semi-regular usage.

Coatingsarecrack
07-15-2021, 07:34 PM
Your process sounds sound. Agreed with The Guz in that the Uber Sio2 is leaving behind about as much protection as the detail spray.... maybe a weeks worth of gloss?.

You could do both if you wanted won’t hurt anything.


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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-16-2021, 10:37 AM
Thanks for all of the great info guys! During the wash process I discovered that the 303 Graphine Nano Spray Coating had failed, as the water was lying completely flat on the surface, so I ended up re applying the 303 Graphine Nano Spray Coating after the rinseless wash.

I'll have to give this process another shot when she brings her truck back in.

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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-16-2021, 10:40 AM
You don't need to use anything after the rinseless. You are good to go just with that alone. Also graphene products are still ceramic based so any ceramic/SiO2 is going to work on them just fine.I did not know that. Thats awesome to hear!

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Coatingsarecrack
07-16-2021, 10:23 PM
Thanks for all of the great info guys! During the wash process I discovered that the 303 Graphine Nano Spray Coating had failed, as the water was lying completely flat on the surface, so I ended up re applying the 303 Graphine Nano Spray Coating after the rinseless wash.

I'll have to give this process another shot when she brings her truck back in.

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How long was it on the vehicle?


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2black1s
07-16-2021, 11:48 PM
How long was it on the vehicle?


I'd like to know the answer too as I've recently started experimenting with 303 Graphene.

Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-17-2021, 09:17 AM
I'd like to know the answer too as I've recently started experimenting with 303 Graphene.



How long was it on the vehicle?


I did an iron decontamination, clayed, and coated the vehicle on Jan 30th.

We had some winter storms and I suspect that the road salts destroyed the coating on the vertical panels by the time the truck came back for a maintence wash on March 11th.

On March 11th I reapplied the coating on the vertical panels, and sprayed 303 303 Touchless Sealant on the horizontal panels during the wash process.

This last maintenance wash I did, where the coating had completely failed was on July 15th.

So only two months on the panels that suffered the suspected road salt abuse, and less than 6 months from the initial application on the horizontal panels.

Also I don't know how the truck was maintained or the conditions it was subjected to in between washes. [emoji848]

I believe the last time I applied the coating to the truck I allowed it to cure for about 2-3 minutes per panel, but this time I set a timer and allowed it to cure for a solid 5 minutes before buffing off with a Cobra Miracle Towel.

I applied the 303 Graphine Nano Spray coating to my Jeep on November 30th 2020 and have done very little maintenance to it and it held up for a solid 5-6 months on the horizontal panels but the road salts from the winter storms also diminished the coating on the vertical panels. Probably from about waist height down. This includes running the Jeep through the touchless wash once or twice.




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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-17-2021, 09:30 AM
I also wanted to add that when I coated my Jeep, I coated the whole vehicle, and then buffed off the coating. I believe you have to give the product a little bit longer of a cure time to properly bond to the surface. This is why I've experimented with timed cure times between 2 to 5 minutes per panel.

I believe 5 minutes is a good cure time, or at least that's what I'm going with. The product will be harder to buff off, but at least you know its properly bonded.

Whatever time you choose to let it cure, just be sure it has cured to a WHITE HAZE.

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