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locarno
06-30-2021, 12:01 PM
Hello

I have repainted car with LC9Z color year ago.

I think the new paint is softer than oem VW. I want to remove all scratches from the paint. Most of which were from automatic car wash.

I'm using 125mm DA machine.

I tired menzerna 3000, menzerna 3800, menzerna 3in1, soft, medium, supersoft pad and the final result does not satisfy me.

Also tried different speed and force. Everytime I wipe off compund I can see under direct sun some kind of microscratches.

What' I'm doing wrong?

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locarno
07-03-2021, 12:15 PM
Hello

I have repainted car with LC9Z color year ago.

I think the new paint is softer than oem VW. I want to remove all scratches from the paint. Most of which were from automatic car wash.

I'm using 125mm DA machine.

I tired menzerna 3000, menzerna 3800, menzerna 3in1, soft, medium, supersoft pad and the final result does not satisfy me.

Also tried different speed and force. Everytime I wipe off compund I can see under direct sun some kind of microscratches.

What' I'm doing wrong?

You can click on the photos to enlarge it.

https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/5217556700_1625072385_thumb.jpg (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fobrazki.elektroda.pl%2F521 7556700_1625072385.jpg) https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/8334601400_1625072385_thumb.jpg (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fobrazki.elektroda.pl%2F833 4601400_1625072385.jpg) https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/8328308200_1625072385_thumb.jpg (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fobrazki.elektroda.pl%2F832 8308200_1625072385.jpg) https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/6504215700_1625072390_thumb.jpg (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fobrazki.elektroda.pl%2F650 4215700_1625072390.jpg)


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Texchappy
07-03-2021, 01:15 PM
A couple of thoughts, and I’m no expert. Are you reinstalling scratches with the wipe down?

Second, if you aren’t getting results going with a finer polish, maybe try going coarser?

Paul A.
07-03-2021, 02:17 PM
I would want to either include or exclude Texchappy's question.

Carefully inspect the fine scratches before working that section. Then reinspect after and see if they conform to your wipe off motions.

98CayenneTA
07-03-2021, 02:18 PM
Those are NOT compounds you are using. Those are fine polishes.

I don't think you are removing all the defects you are going after.

Try Menzerna 400

Menzerna 3800 is a very fine polish and I actually use it as a jewling polish with a no cut pad and rotary. You're not going to remove many car wash swirls with a foam pad and 3800

Texchappy
07-03-2021, 02:40 PM
I would want to either include or exclude Texchappy's question.

Carefully inspect the fine scratches before working that section. Then reinspect after and see if they conform to your wipe off motions.

I expect that the paint is harder than you thought and you haven’t touched it with the very fine polishes you’ve used or it’s as you thought, really really soft.

If it is soft, check it by wiping in a different direction that the majority of the current scratches. Wipe in a very specific manner so you can tell if you are reintroducing scratches.

2black1s
07-03-2021, 03:19 PM
Sometimes very, very fine blemishes that can appear as scratches/swirls immediately following compounding, polishing, or even waxing are actually streaks left behind from whatever product you are using. Try going over one of the suspect areas with a Quick Detailer or the like and see what the results are.

This might be wishful thinking but it's certainly worth a try.

98CayenneTA
07-03-2021, 03:37 PM
Take a flash light and put it to the paint like this so we can read it better

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Bruno Soares
07-03-2021, 05:12 PM
Do this to make sure your pad is rotating.

Video: Mark your backing plate to make it easy to see pad rotation (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/49489-video-mark-your-backing-plate-make-easy-see-pad-rotation.html)

Kamakaz1961
07-03-2021, 06:42 PM
Try Menzerna FG400. That is a compound.

627PCFan
07-03-2021, 07:47 PM
+1 for everyone above. You have deeper RIDS and not enough cut and they are catching your eye.

AeroCleanse
07-03-2021, 10:05 PM
If the paint is really soft Sonax Perfect Finish has always worked well for me.

locarno
07-04-2021, 04:47 AM
If I can ask. How to prevent reinstalling scratches with by wiping down? Change microfiber I assume?

The Guz
07-04-2021, 01:10 PM
As others have mentioned you may not be removing the defects with your current process. You need to try a test spot with a more aggressive combination. Car Wash defects can be pretty deep.

Mike Phillips
07-05-2021, 09:19 AM
Hello

I have repainted car with LC9Z color year ago. I think the new paint is softer than oem VW.

I want to remove all scratches from the paint. Most of which were from automatic car wash.



Assuming the paint had zero scratches AFTER you painted it. Why then would you take it to an automatic car wash? Did you not know they type of car wash would scratch the paint on your car?

:dunno:







I'm using 125mm DA machine.




What kind of polisher?

My best guess is 125mm refers to the size and specifically the diameter of the backing plate on the tools.

This doesn't tell us what kind of tool it is?


My guess is the tool is too weak to remove the defects or you're putting them back in when you wipe off any product. Just a guess.


:dunno: