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Ike21
06-11-2021, 11:34 AM
Hi All,

I’ve been away from the detailing scene for a while, and was hoping to ask you guys for some product pointers.

What’s a good sealant that balances longevity and chemical resistance (touchless washes, acid rain, etc.) with ease of application?
Mainly, is there something out there there days that would last ~1 year, but is forgiving enough with respect to non-staining or removal from plastic and rubber trim to skip masking?

I’m in a tough situation where I only have enough time to do a chemical strip hand wash, then sealant. May have some time for Tar/iron removal, and spot clay only, but that’s TBD.

Thanks!

CleanIT
06-11-2021, 11:37 AM
I like Griot's 3 in 1 at the moment. Very easy to use. Proved to be very durable as well.

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oneheadlite
06-11-2021, 11:53 AM
I would second the Griot's 3 in 1. Not sure you can say it'll last a year, but it's so easy to apply and factoring in it's price that I don't think that's a big negative.

I put it on my car last July. I can say it's been really great as far as resisting bird bomb etching and I haven't noticed water spots being a problem. The beading isn't hyper insane, but even after 6 months you could still tell it was doing it's thing (based on how the water was beading, even if the car was dirty) when it rained. It's not going to self clean itself in the rain and make you dinner like some products claim, though I still haven't used one that's delivered on that yet.

After a MN winter, you can tell the beading is diminished on the sides of the car, I'm sure due to road film build up. In a perfect world I'd give the car a good decontamination wash and see if it's still hanging in there, but time hasn't allowed for that to happen yet.

No worries about trim/rubber/etc. I used it on all the glass as well (FWIW, they say not to use it on the windshield).

Good stuff.

Rsurfer
06-11-2021, 01:11 PM
Collinite 845..apply thinly.

CleanIT
06-11-2021, 01:17 PM
I would second the Griot's 3 in 1. Not sure you can say it'll last a year, but it's so easy to apply and factoring in it's price that I don't think that's a big negative.

I put it on my car last July. I can say it's been really great as far as resisting bird bomb etching and I haven't noticed water spots being a problem. The beading isn't hyper insane, but even after 6 months you could still tell it was doing it's thing (based on how the water was beading, even if the car was dirty) when it rained. It's not going to self clean itself in the rain and make you dinner like some products claim, though I still haven't used one that's delivered on that yet.

After a MN winter, you can tell the beading is diminished on the sides of the car, I'm sure due to road film build up. In a perfect world I'd give the car a good decontamination wash and see if it's still hanging in there, but time hasn't allowed for that to happen yet.

No worries about trim/rubber/etc. I used it on all the glass as well (FWIW, they say not to use it on the windshield).

Good stuff.

I noticed this too. I don't know how much beading matters, but the 3 in 1 has produced decent beading in my use. Not the best. At one point I had thought it failed early on, however after washing all the pollen off the car, it was still there and still very functional. It's more durable than I had thought.

dwaleke
06-11-2021, 02:10 PM
I'd be tempted to use Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating.

Typically I'd never recommend coating a vehicle without polishing first. But in your case it ticks all your boxes for performance, ease of application, etc, and if a ceramic sealant like Griot's 3-in-1 will bond I don't see why this wouldn't.

Perhaps clay the whole vehicle first if it needs it. And apply HPC over everything except glass. So no issues with staining trim or other plastics, etc.

Prange
06-11-2021, 04:39 PM
FK1000p.

Farmallluvr
06-11-2021, 06:41 PM
I like Jescar Powerlock +,,machine applied with a wax pad of your choice,,,I was looking at some Griots 3n1 earlier today and am curious about it as well

Rsurfer
06-11-2021, 06:57 PM
I like Jescar Powerlock +,,machine applied with a wax pad of your choice,,,I was looking at some Griots 3n1 earlier today and am curious about it as well

Have you tired Jescar Ultra Lock + with ceramic?

Texchappy
06-11-2021, 07:21 PM
I’m just short of two months on the Griot’s 3in1 ceramic on my son’s Aegean Blue Civic and so far, so good.

glen e
06-11-2021, 07:27 PM
Whenever you ask a question about the best of something you’re going to get 15 or 20 different answers, maybe even more. just look around the site, see Mike’s product reviews in the product section and see which one strikes your fancy. I think we can all agree that there is not a single sealant that’s going to last a year or so. Most are good for six months or if garaged, maybe nine months. I like blackfire SIO2 spray, 303 graphene spray, and collinite 845, but that takes too much hassle to put on. Carpro essence followed by reload is also pretty good.

briarpatch
06-11-2021, 08:04 PM
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant or Wolfgang SIO2 Sealant.....both are super easy to use and very durable.

PaulMys
06-11-2021, 08:10 PM
Collinite 845, but that takes too much hassle to put on......

Do you really think 845 is a "hassle" to apply? I find it to be one of the easiest LSP's to apply (and remove) that I have tried.




Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant or Wolfgang SIO2 Sealant.....both are super easy to use and very durable.

While I love the look of the WGDG, I can personally attest to it failing with the slightest bird bomb. And that was with a Fuzion (paste) topper.........

Farmallluvr
06-11-2021, 08:18 PM
Have you tired Jescar Ultra Lock + with ceramic?

I forgot about that one,,LOL,,I haven't tried it yet but I will when my Powerlock + is gone I will

DUBL0WS6
06-11-2021, 08:46 PM
Any spray and wipe wax. To quote Meatloaf, "two outta three ain't bad".