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Eric7810
03-25-2021, 07:36 PM
Local body shop owner had a guy come to him with a 1980 Corvette. The car had been repainted and has orange peel, customer wants it corrected.

Body shop told me he would sand it up to 2000 grit, buff it with his rotary and wool pad, and hand it to me to finish out and wax it.

Body shop quoted the customer 600 out the door. I told body shop I’d need 300. He agreed. Something tells me though this Vette owner is getting a deal.

Thoughts...?


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98CayenneTA
03-25-2021, 07:41 PM
Local body shop owner had a guy come to him with a 1980 Corvette. The car had been repainted and has orange peel, customer wants it corrected.

Body shop told me he would sand it up to 2000 grit, buff it with his rotary and wool pad, and hand it to me to finish out and wax it.

Body shop quoted the customer 600 out the door. I told body shop I’d need 300. He agreed. Something tells me though this Vette owner is getting a deal.

Thoughts...?


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I would have waited until the body shop was done with it before I quoted it to see exactly what I'm cleaning up.

PaulMys
03-25-2021, 07:48 PM
Is a 1980 Corvette single stage paint, Or BC/CC?

And is working on painted fiberglass that has been sanded down different than sheet metal?

I have no idea, but I'm sure our body guys do..................

sudsmobile
03-25-2021, 07:49 PM
If they don't get EVERY one of the sanding marks out, you're going to have to and then you're kind of kicking yourself over the price. Like said above, I would have waited to see it.

Klasse Act
03-25-2021, 08:01 PM
All great advice!

Without looking it up I believe Corvettes didn't get clear coated paint until 1982 but who knows with the repaint. I'd FOR SURE wait to see what the bidyshop does, hope they check how much paint is on there before they get going with a rotory and wool[emoji44]

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TTQ B4U
03-26-2021, 07:31 AM
Your taking it on the chin or at least risking it. All my "estimates" are based on the starting point and how far they want to take it. Something like this is no-doubt going to need a correction and given it's a re-paint over fiberglass that's wet sanded and hit with a rotary, there's a lot going on that could end up from one end of bad to the other of not so bad before you get it.

On that car, a one step AIO product $350 but the results will again be based on existing condition. Two step that and I'm up to $450. If it's really bad though, then I might hit him at $495.

Eric7810
03-27-2021, 05:51 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. So helpful.

The last response gave me an idea that I will probably try; using HD Speed with 6-8 section passes and seeing what results I get.

I will be in close contact with the body shop. I wish I had done things a little differently, but I have a feeling this will be a learning experience.

Thanks again.


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sudsmobile
03-27-2021, 09:35 PM
To get wool marks out I'd probably go with something a little more aggressive than Speed but will finish out. Something like TLD.

Eric7810
04-10-2021, 06:40 PM
Here’s an update;

I got the job in and done today. I ended up taking the vehicle from him and doing the compound and polish myself. He wet sanded only.

It turned out great, but it was not fun. I used my Flex 3401 with a few 6” wool pads and 3D One to remove the sanding marks. It works, but you have to work your ass off. I wish I had had a rotary.

I finished it with 6.5” LC hybrid force orange pads and HD Speed.

I wish the body shop had used a pad to sand it, rather than pushing a piece of sandpaper with his finger tips.

Hit me with some thoughts and opinions..

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98CayenneTA
04-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Looks good from the pics but you should put a light directly to it and take a pic for honest opinions

Eric7810
04-10-2021, 07:33 PM
I’m interested rather in the details of the job itself. Anybody ever removed sanding marks with a 3401 before? I will never do it again.


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98CayenneTA
04-10-2021, 07:45 PM
I’m interested rather in the details of the job itself. Anybody ever removed sanding marks with a 3401 before? I will never do it again.


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A rotary would have helped.

A more aggressive compound like 3d ACA 500 or CarPro UltraCut would have made life a lot easier.

3m perfect-it 1 would have been another very good choice for this project.

2black1s
04-10-2021, 08:42 PM
That looks like a horrible job of sanding.

Now that its polished, can you see any ripples and waves in the finish attributable to the poor sand job? By what I can see in the pics I'd expect that answer to be yes.

psnt1ol
04-10-2021, 09:06 PM
I agree with 2blacks... Horrible sanding job... nothing uniform about those marks.

I used 3401 to get rid of sanding marks many of times but generally I work down to 3000 grits (5000 grits if the budget allows) sand paper prior to using the polisher. It comes off pretty easy just with a medium compound.

I think the ununiform sanding marks is the issue. I am sure there were deep gouges on the paint if they use their fingers to sand.

98CayenneTA
04-10-2021, 09:16 PM
That looks like a horrible job of sanding.

I agree, definitely would have waited to bid this one until after for this very reason. If they are not cleaning up their own mess and with such a low quote to have it cleaned up it looks like they didn't give much consideration to the guy in the next step of the process.