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Mike Phillips
01-22-2021, 10:24 AM
TRAINING BOATS for the 2021 MARCH Boat Detailing Class
(https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2-day-boat-detailing-classes-info-and-dates/128417-training-boats-2021-march-boat-detailing-class.html)



This class is SOLD OUT!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3964/Mike_Phillips_Class_SOLD_OUT21.jpg




The 2021 Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class!

Made by boat people for boat people!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/m31-group.jpg






ATTENTION

If you're reading this thread - chances are really good you're taking the boat detailing class here at Autogeek and you received an e-mail from me.



REMEMBER

1: Get a good night's sleep Friday night - we have a LOT of work to do on Saturday. I know you'll sleep good Saturday night. :)

2: Wear comfortable WORK CLOTHES - this is a hand-on class, no sitting. You are going to get DIRTY!






Here's your Training Boats!


Here's one of the confirmed training boats for the upcoming 2-day class in March.


This is a 27' Conch27 Center Console.

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/27_Conch_Center_Console_001.JPG

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/27_Conch_Center_Console_002.JPG

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/27_Conch_Center_Console_003.JPG




Info about Conch Boats (https://www.conchboats.com/)




:buffing:

Mike Phillips
03-01-2021, 09:56 AM
:bump:


Just confirmed the second boat for the upcoming 2-day boat detailing class!

The folks attending this will learn gelcoat correction and your going to ceramic coat every square inch of both boats inside and outside.



26’ Pro-Line Super Sport with an 8’5” beam

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_001.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_002.JPG



Here's the Port side showing both oxidation and ghosting from the factory graphics that were removed sometime in the past.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_003.JPG



Here's a close-up cropped out of the pictures above to better show the oxidation and former location of factory graphics.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_003c.JPG



Here's a shot from the Aft of the boat showing the same type of thing...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_004.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_004c.JPG






Gelcoat Correction and Ceramic Coating

In my opinion and experience, this boat is in decent shape. But do look at the corner of the hull, (lower left) and you can see the white gelcoat is oxidized. As a part of this class, 100% of all oxized gelcoat surfaces must be corrected and coated. So you have your work cut out for you and you will all have to work as a team.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_005.JPG





Same goes for the inside of the boat. I suggest wearing soft cotton stretchy paints because in order to machine correct the inside of this hull you're going to have to sit on your butt to safely run a buffer.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_006.JPG




Mold and Mildew

This boat doesn't have super bad mold and mildew but we'll go over how to remove it and then seal the vinyl surfaces.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_007.JPG





Molded-in Non-Skid
This Pro-Line has a LOT of molded-in non-skid surfaces that you will have to clean and then seal.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_008.JPG




More mold and mildew...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_009.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_010.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_011.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_012.JPG




Boat Detailing is Physically Demanding

One of the areas that requires a LOT of muscle is detailing the underneath of the hardtop. Think about it - you're going to have to reach and work over your head. Not fun but a part of a proper boat detail. Look at the mold and mildew on the underside and look at all the metal that needs to be polished and protected.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_013.JPG



The center console is always challenging. This is where a RUPES Nano on Rotary Mode comes in handy.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_014.JPG



Click here for more information about the 26' Pro-Line Super Sport (https://prolineboats.com/boats/sport/26-super-sport/)




Are you ready to work hard?

Yeah buddy!



These are the most hands-on boat detailing class on planet Earth! Documented.



http://www.marine31online.com/forum/images/smilies/fisherman.gif

Mike Hoekstra
03-01-2021, 10:45 AM
Saweet! See you in a few days!:buffing::dblthumb2:

undrpressure23
03-01-2021, 12:16 PM
Cant Wait!!!:cheers:

Mike Phillips
03-01-2021, 12:21 PM
Saweet! See you in a few days! :buffing: :dblthumb2:



Looking forward to catching up with you Mike! :cheers:






Cant Wait!!!:cheers:




I'll remember you said this. (can't wait).

About 1/2 hour into either machine sanding or using a rotary with a wool pad and the fun aspect starts to dissipate.


:laughing:

undrpressure23
03-01-2021, 02:11 PM
My arms may be numb,:laughing: but I promise there will be a face of determination and a smile under that

Mike Phillips
03-01-2021, 04:51 PM
My arms may be numb,:laughing: but I promise there will be a face of determination and a smile under that



Ha ha...

I make it sound worse than it is, but this way everyone's prepared.


:cheers:

Mike Hoekstra
03-01-2021, 05:01 PM
Quick question while I am remembering it -

Do you cover any gel coat repair processes in the class? I have had a customer call and ask about that.

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 09:20 AM
Quick question while I am remembering it -

Do you cover any gel coat repair processes in the class?

I have had a customer call and ask about that.




I'm sorry to say but "no".

That type of technology would have to be a class of it's own. It's really a "dedicated topic".


Because you've attended my 3-day class (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-3-day-car-detailing-bootcamp-classes/127656-pictures-2020-september-3-day-detailing-bootcamp-class-post1691921.html#post1691921), you know how intense my classes are. There's literally ZERO sitting time except for a few minutes for a quickie lunch.


You're going to find out that this boat detailing class is the exact same way. In order to include a class on gelcoat repair - I would have to add at least 2 more days. The first day of gelcoat repair would be the actual repair process and just as important the follow-up to the repair would be finishing-out the repair for customer pleasing results. We would have to wait for the polyester resin and catalyst hardener to fully cure, dry and harden before we could start sanding on it. In my mind's eye, I know the repair aspect, in a "classroom" environment, would take the first day. We would let the repair harden and dry overnight. This means a minimum of 2 days for gelcoat a proper gelcoat repair class.

Currently this is a 2-day class and by the time Sunday rolls-around... most of the class, (no you, you're in pretty good physical shape), but most of the class is going to be whipped. And then we start interior boat detailing and it's just as hard as outside boat detailing.

I could see myself teaching a gelcoat repair class in the future, I'm not sure how I would structure it though as it relates to the "days" to hold the class. When you start a formal structure class you have to take into consideration things like,



1: The day or days of the week the class is held.

2: Travel time for students to get to and return from the class location.



If a class starts on a Friday, the travel days are Wednesday and/or Thursday. This means people taking time-off their normal jobs. A two day class on the weekend means people making travel plans for the days before the class and the days after the class. Then their hotel coats, rental car coats, meals-on-the-road costs, the cost of the class.

It's a lot more complicated than most people would know.


There's a HUGE difference between a real structured class on any topic and some guys that have a Get-Together at some guy's home garage. I've done both types so all I'm saying is one type is a lot more intense logistically than the other.



Great question - thank you for asking.


:cheers:

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 09:33 AM
Quick question while I am remembering it -

Do you cover any gel coat repair processes in the class?

I have had a customer call and ask about that.




I'm sorry to say but "no".

That type of technology would have to be a class of it's own. It's really a "dedicated topic".


Because you've attended my 3-day class (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-3-day-car-detailing-bootcamp-classes/127656-pictures-2020-september-3-day-detailing-bootcamp-class-post1691921.html#post1691921), you know how intense my classes are. There's literally ZERO sitting time except for a few minutes for a quickie lunch.


You're going to find out that this boat detailing class is the exact same way. In order to include a class on gelcoat repair - I would have to add at least 2 more days. The first day of gelcoat repair would be the actual repair process and just as important the follow-up to the repair would be finishing-out the repair for customer pleasing results. We would have to wait for the polyester resin and catalyst hardener to fully cure, dry and harden before we could start sanding on it. In my mind's eye, I know the repair aspect, in a "classroom" environment, would take the first day. We would let the repair harden and dry overnight. This means a minimum of 2 days for gelcoat a proper gelcoat repair class.

Currently this is a 2-day class and by the time Sunday rolls-around... most of the class, (no you, you're in pretty good physical shape), but most of the class is going to be whipped. And then we start interior boat detailing and it's just as hard as outside boat detailing.

I could see myself teaching a gelcoat repair class in the future, I'm not sure how I would structure it though as it relates to the "days" to hold the class. When you start a formal structure class you have to take into consideration things like,



1: The day or days of the week the class is held.

2: Travel time for students to get to and return from the class location.



If a class starts on a Friday, the travel days are Wednesday and/or Thursday. This means people taking time-off their normal jobs. A two day class on the weekend means people making travel plans for the days before the class and the days after the class. Then their hotel coats, rental car coats, meals-on-the-road costs, the cost of the class.

It's a lot more complicated than most people would know.


There's a HUGE difference between a real structured class on any topic and some guys that have a Get-Together at some guy's home garage. I've done both types so all I'm saying is one type is a lot more intense logistically than the other.



Great question - thank you for asking.


:cheers:

Mike Hoekstra
03-02-2021, 11:57 AM
No worries. Thank you for the in-depth answer. I think it's comical that you refer to me as "good physical shape". LMAO:D:D:D:D:D:laughing::laughing::laughing::laugh ing::laughing:

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 12:05 PM
No worries. Thank you for the in-depth answer.



Yeah... my middle name is, Mike in-depth Phillips. :D





I think it's comical that you refer to me as "good physical shape".

LMAO:D:D:D:D:D:laughing::laughing::laughing::laugh ing::laughing:



When it comes to boat detailing - muscle mass is a good thing.


:cheers:

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 04:13 PM
:bump:


This week I'm setting up, stocking up and staging all the tools, pads, sanding discs, Marine 31 products, etc. we'll need for this 100% hands-on class.


Here I've went through all my 3", 5" and 6" Interface Pads for machine sanding. This is the first topic the class will cover on Saturday morning.


Interface Sanding Pads for Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class this weekend!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_015.JPG


Marine 31 - Made by boat people for boat people!



:)

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 04:21 PM
:updated:


The coolest thing about the Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class is the VOLUME of Marine 31 products you'll get to train with with TONS of cool tools.


Staging Rotary Buffer Backing Plates for the Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class!

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/26_ProLine_Coating_Boat_016.JPG



I guarantee the BEST boat detailing class as well as the MOST hands-on class on planet Earth.


Also the most photo-documented. Just try to find any other BRAND of marine product where you see people using the products on real nasty boats.


:buffing:

Mike Phillips
03-02-2021, 04:51 PM
:bump:


One thing I think makes our classes here at Autogeek unique - EVERYONE gets their own tools, pads and products. No one stands around with their hands in their pockets waiting to use something.


Marine 31 Captain's One-Step Compound & Polish - There's no other marine brand of compound like it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/Marine_31_Boat_Class_003.JPG

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/Marine_31_Boat_Class_002.JPG



And everyone in my class gets their own tools, bottles of compound, buffing pads - you name it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4218/Marine_31_Boat_Class_001.JPG


There are no chairs. There is no sitting.


These classes are all hands-on from start of the morning until end of day.


And I bring in HORRIBLE condition boats for you to train and learn on.





:buffing: