Clear Vinyl Wrap Detail Process

[Robcruising83]

Have purchased 2017 Aston Martin DB11. Car has clear vinyl wrapped front end (hood & quarter panels). Balance of car is traditional paint. I want to learn to detail this car (clay bar, polish, wax, sealants, etc) however need to know first if the processes for detailing this car with vinyl are the same as that with cars without vinyl (traditional processes for paint). New at this so please be patient. Thanks for any help!

[98CayenneTA]

Have purchased 2017 Aston Martin DB11. Car has clear vinyl wrapped front end (hood & quarter panels). Balance of car is traditional paint. I want to learn to detail this car (clay bar, polish, wax, sealants, etc) however need to know first if the processes for detailing this car with vinyl are the same as that with cars without vinyl (traditional processes for paint). New at this so please be patient. Thanks for any help!

For PPF I usually go over it with something like CarPro Essence and a no cut pad like Buff & Shine red wax pad.

[glen e]

Depends on what kind of clear wrap it is. If it’s XPEL, you can use their sealant or any good sealant, there is no need to polish at all.

[Mike Phillips]

The first questions are,



1: What do you have for tools?

2: What do you have for pads?

3: What do you have for products?




It goes without saying, you need lots of great quality, UN-CONTAMINATED microfiber towels of all sorts.


So what do you have?




And because this is your first post,

Welcome to AutogeekOnline!

:welcome:

[Robcruising83]

Thanks! So basically do not use any cutting type of polishes or pads?

[Robcruising83]

Mike,

First of all thanks for the add here!

Tools... I contacted you previously re my boat finishing needs. As a result bought the Flex XC 3401 and Marine 31 Products. Also have the PC 7424 machine.

Pads...have Lake Country 6.5" foam pad colors of all types.

Product..have Marine 31 bought for work I'm doing on my boats (gelcoat) after a previous email with you (realize may not work for my car use).



Joined forum per your previous recommendation so here I am. :)


Have Gel Coat Products:

Carnuba Wax & Sealant,
Stainless Steel & Alum Brightening Soap,
Final Step Polish,
Heavy Cut Oxidation Polish,
One Step Polish & Wax/Sealant.

Have many Microfiber towels of different color separate per your suggestion).

Thanks for any help.



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[Mike Phillips]

Have purchased 2017 Aston Martin DB11. Car has clear vinyl wrapped front end (hood & quarter panels). Balance of car is traditional paint.


I want to learn to detail this car (clay bar, polish, wax, sealants, etc) however need to know first if the processes for detailing this car with vinyl are the same as that with cars without vinyl (traditional processes for paint). New at this so please be patient.







Mike,

First of all thanks for the add here!

Tools... I contacted you previously re my boat finishing needs. As a result bought the Flex XC 3401 and Marine 31 Products. Also have the PC 7424 machine.

Pads...have Lake Country 6.5" foam pad colors of all types.

Product..have Marine 31 bought for work I'm doing on my boats (gelcoat) after a previous email with you (realize may not work for my car use).



Joined forum per your previous recommendation so here I am. :)


Have Gel Coat Products:

Carnuba Wax & Sealant,
Stainless Steel & Alum Brightening Soap,
Final Step Polish,
Heavy Cut Oxidation Polish,
One Step Polish & Wax/Sealant.

Have many Microfiber towels of different color separate per your suggestion).

Thanks for any help.



:buffing:



Okay, I've quoted your first post to provide context and your second post to outline your arsenal.

The good news...

The good news is you can use the Porter Cable and foam pads to buff on the PPF on the front of the Aston Martin SHOULD IT EVER NEED IT. What's more important is to "touch" it carefully and always with clean, un-contaminated microfiber products. This way you won't put swirls and scratches into it to only have to remove later. Be pro-active.

If the PPF - Paint Protection Film aka Vinyl Wrap already has swirls and scratches I've had great luck machine polishing these defects out using orbital polishers like the Porter Cable, (free spinning), and fine cut polishes that use great abrasive technology.


For the paint, you can use either tool with foam pads.


The bad news...

Generally speaking - marine grade products are too aggressive for PPF and automotive clearcoats. I would trust the Marine 31 Captain's One Step Compound and Polish on clearcoats but not any of the other products. They are fine on gel-coat but skip using them on your cool car.


:)

[Mike Phillips]

Question?


Where do you live?


:)

[Mike Phillips]

I'm typing a brand new Show -N Shine article for an old 2-door Pontiac and from it 3 new product reviews. Also getting ready to step out into the garage to shoot and IGL video. So a tick busy.


Here's what I recommend. Click the video below and watch it from start to finish. It will teach you everything you need to know and do to machine polish your Aston Martin.

When it comes to the PPF or Clear Bra, follow what I share when I get to the "polishing" step and of course - do a TEST SPOT for both the paint and the PPF.



https://youtu.be/ulWXODgg8V4



If you want to make buffing out the precious thin paint on this car 'Bubba-Proof" - then get the Pinnacle products I show in the video. They are no more expensive than 3M brand and you simply cannot make a mistake with them as they all use great abrasive technology.



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[Robcruising83]

Mike,
Answering your last two replies.
First please let me know if I should buy some more different product (brand/type) for the car vs the Marine 31. BTW...the car is "like new" shape so don't need anything aggressive for now. However it does have some minor dirt/spots to clean off from Trailering, driving around here, etc. Probably could use a wax/sealant once cleaned.
Second, live in Michigan which is where all the boats are...however snowbird down in FL right now (Bonita Springs) so have the car here....but all tools back home. :(
I appreciate all the help you have given me!

[Robcruising83]

Just saw your 3rd text....I'm good for now re product and will watch the video on the process. Thanks.

[Robcruising83]

Thanks Glen! Not sure how to tell which wrap I have....

[Mike Phillips]

Just saw your 3rd text....I'm good for now re product and will watch the video on the process.

Thanks.




Copy that, I'll answer you anyways for others that will read this into the future. :props:







Mike,

Answering your last two replies.

First please let me know if I should buy some more different product (brand/type) for the car vs the Marine 31.




Yeah no... like mentioned, in most cases, marine grade product that use abrasives tend to be too aggressive for thin, delicate automotive clearcoats.

See these two articles,

Clearcoats are thin by Mike Phillips (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/87410-clearcoats-thin-mike-phillips.html)

and

Clearcoats are Scratch-Sensitive (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/74234-clearcoats-scratch-sensitive.html)







BTW...the car is "like new" shape so don't need anything aggressive for now. However it does have some minor dirt/spots to clean off from Trailering, driving around here, etc.

Probably could use a wax/sealant once cleaned.



If you don't have your heart set on using any type of ceramic coating where you'll want/need to chemically strip the paint, then I'd recommend keeping it super simple. Get a 32 ounce bottle of the BLACKFIRE One Step and thank me later. You can use this on both the paint and the clear bra - it's that safe. AND - super easy to wipe off.






Second, live in Michigan which is where all the boats are...however snowbird down in FL right now (Bonita Springs) so have the car here....but all tools back home. :(

I appreciate all the help you have given me!




Spoil yourself - take one or both of my upcoming classes. I guarantee they are the MOST hands-on classes on Planet Earth and a hell of a lot of fun.



Link to info on both the upcoming car and boat detailing classes (https://www.autogeek.net/detail-classes.html)




Maybe someone reading this that has attended either or both of the classes can be a witness?



:)

[Mike Phillips]

Examples...


It takes LOT Of time to create the "picture threads" like I do for my classes and these are far from complete but they still do a good job of showing you what Mike Phillips car and boat detailing class looks like.


Pictures: 2020 September 3-Day Detailing Bootcamp Class (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-3-day-car-detailing-bootcamp-classes/127656-pictures-2020-september-3-day-detailing-bootcamp-class.html)

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Pictures: 2020 Boat Detailing Class - SOLD OUT! (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-2-day-boat-detailing-classes/125511-pictures-2020-boat-detailing-class-sold-out.html)

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