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ERS
11-01-2020, 01:01 PM
I have a black '06 Shelby Mustang. I drive mostly on weekends as a pleasure car. Garage kept. Of course it is not immune to attracting every piece of dust known to mankind. I'm exaggerating but I think most know what I mean when it comes to black.

My question after a weekend drive, no rain involved, being black, is it best to go with a waterless wash and some AG microfibers or should I just get the hose, rinse it off and dry with my leaf blower. My objective is to avoid inducing any swirls or scratches. Sometimes the dust after a drive makes me reluctant to waterless wash. But was wondering what other black car owners do.

We all know, when it's clean, all be it for 30 min lol, nothing looks better than black.

Open to ideas. Thanks.

Ernie

Klasse Act
11-01-2020, 01:06 PM
I've had black cars in the past and while I understand what your saying about WW I wouldn't sweat it too much. I mean yes, a simple snow foam/dwell/rinse/blow dry has ZERO touching involved but with proper techniques and QUALITY plush, edgeless mf towels used during a WW, you'll be fine IMO. Pre-treating each panel and not being afraid to use too much product is a great idea[emoji362][emoji6]

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UncleDavy
11-01-2020, 01:20 PM
Drying the vehicle with a blower of some sort will not remove every bit of water. You will still need to touch the surface with a towel of some type. A quality plush microfiber with a detail spray will leave the surface completely clean and dry. A proper technique will not leave swirls behind.

Klasse Act
11-01-2020, 01:23 PM
I would also like to add, not to be disrespectful but it's a car and the act of driving it anywhere can throw ANYTHING at it, just sayin'[emoji848][emoji6]

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UncleDavy
11-01-2020, 01:32 PM
I would also like to add, not to be disrespectful but it's a car and the act of driving it anywhere can throw ANYTHING at it, just sayin'[emoji848][emoji6]

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Especially the guy in front of you that turns his windshield washer fluid on at 70 mph.

joebruin77
11-01-2020, 02:09 PM
Sounds like an awesome ride!

The problem with just hosing off the car with water is that, IMO, it will not get the paint clean enough. I have seen videos on youtube of guys using pressure washers to hose off their cars. Even with the high pressure, there is still plenty of road grime and dirt left on the car's paint. In order to adequately clean the paint, you need to make contact with the paint.

Of course, the goal is to clean without inducing scratches or swirls. If you use a rinseless or waterless wash solution that gives you lots of lubricity, soft microfiber towels, and, very importantly, the right technique for both washing and drying, you will have clean paint with very minimal swirls or scratches.

FUNX650
11-01-2020, 02:29 PM
•Although water is the universal solvent,
-I’ve never found it to provide, in and of
itself, the best of lubriciousness for removal
of contaminates—no matter their size or type.


•Another thought:
-Often the LSP, and how long it’s been
since last applied, will determine my
choice of cleaning/drying steps.


•Or:
-I’ll just wait ‘til the vehicle is dirty
enough to give it the full Monty.


Bob

2black1s
11-02-2020, 12:02 PM
I have a black truck, garage kept, driven moderately in So Cal weather.

Here's what I do... And while my method will make many of you here cringe, it works for me and my truck always looks good and is essentially swirl-free. 100% swirl-free on a driven black vehicle is impossible over the long haul, but periodic light polishing's will refresh the finish to near perfection.

My first step (and here's where the cringing begins) is to remove any loose dust/contamination with a California Car Duster. I then follow with Meguiar's D115 "Rinse-Free Express Wash and Wax" diluted 4:1 (4 parts water to 1 part product) and used like you would use a quik detailer. Mist it on - wipe it off.

This process works good enough for me that I can't even remember the last time I used a hose and did a conventional wash. I do conventional washes occasionally, but generally only when I want to hose off the undercarraige, wheel wells, jambs and the like.

In my opinion, cleaning the loose dust from the vehicle with the California Car Duster before touching the finish in any other way is the safest way to minimize swirling, short of a full, gentle, conventional washing.

I also have two black Harley's that I maintain the same way.

Coatingsarecrack
11-03-2020, 06:32 AM
I have a black 16 mustang..... I feel your pain. Rinsing and blow drying never cut it. Not a fan of Waterless washes unless it’s Frothe.

I would recommend RINSELESS wash. Basically it’s a bucket full of waterless wash. Dip about 5-10 MF towels into bucket of solution and wipe car down. It’s quick an simple and haven’t had much marring issues.

I use a pump sprayer and pre spray car before doing.

Wolfgang Uber or Uber Sio2 rinseless washes would be a good choice.


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Calendyr
11-04-2020, 01:14 AM
Used a Waterless wash for the first time last week. I decided to use that to clay instead of the rinseless solution I normally use, When came time to dry the panel, a lot of residue was left behind. I had to re-wash with a rinseless to get rid of it... No a big fan so far. Next time il will rinse with rinseless before drying to see if it fixes the problem. If it doesn't, I will stop using it.

Calendyr
11-04-2020, 01:16 AM
I have a black 16 mustang..... I feel your pain. Rinsing and blow drying never cut it. Not a fan of Waterless washes unless it’s Frothe.

I would recommend RINSELESS wash. Basically it’s a bucket full of waterless wash. Dip about 5-10 MF towels into bucket of solution and wipe car down. It’s quick an simple and haven’t had much marring issues.

I use a pump sprayer and pre spray car before doing.

Wolfgang Uber or Uber Sio2 rinseless washes would be a good choice.


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Have you tried other waterless in a foaming sprayer? Never tried it but I now remember that Larry suggest using frothe that way.

Coatingsarecrack
11-04-2020, 01:44 AM
Have you tried other waterless in a foaming sprayer? Never tried it but I now remember that Larry suggest using frothe that way.

Yeah only way I use frothecand love it. Most standard waterless or rinseless won’t foam. Their seem to be more that do on the market. 3D has one.... ADG has a soap that works in a bucket and as a Foaming waterless, Fusion i believe.

Theirs a thread on here or Autopia re cently about foaming waterless washes


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Klasse Act
11-04-2020, 06:18 AM
Used a Waterless wash for the first time last week. I decided to use that to clay instead of the rinseless solution I normally use, When came time to dry the panel, a lot of residue was left behind. I had to re-wash with a rinseless to get rid of it... No a big fan so far. Next time il will rinse with rinseless before drying to see if it fixes the problem. If it doesn't, I will stop using it.Which WW did you use?

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Azure
11-04-2020, 01:11 PM
I have a black truck, garage kept, driven moderately in So Cal weather.

Here's what I do... And while my method will make many of you here cringe, it works for me and my truck always looks good and is essentially swirl-free. 100% swirl-free on a driven black vehicle is impossible over the long haul, but periodic light polishing's will refresh the finish to near perfection.

My first step (and here's where the cringing begins) is to remove any loose dust/contamination with a California Car Duster. I then follow with Meguiar's D115 "Rinse-Free Express Wash and Wax" diluted 4:1 (4 parts water to 1 part product) and used like you would use a quik detailer. Mist it on - wipe it off.

This process works good enough for me that I can't even remember the last time I used a hose and did a conventional wash. I do conventional washes occasionally, but generally only when I want to hose off the undercarraige, wheel wells, jambs and the like.

In my opinion, cleaning the loose dust from the vehicle with the California Car Duster before touching the finish in any other way is the safest way to minimize swirling, short of a full, gentle, conventional washing.

I also have two black Harley's that I maintain the same way.

Lol, I won't lie, I'll still use my old California Duster on mine the next day if I washed and waxed it and basically put her in the garage shortly afterwards. That's about it anymore. I used to use it all the time many years ago before I started correcting the paint on my cars. You couldn't tell that it was putting scratches on the paint back in the day because nobody had corrected paint in the 80' & 90's lol. I remember going to a 500 World of Wheels one year in the late 90's and seeing a Chevelle that had this perfect paint job. I thought, "how can it look that good?". That's around the time I researched ways to make your paint look good. I'm pretty sure that's about the time I would see Mike Phillips on TV discussing car care.

Calendyr
11-04-2020, 05:47 PM
Which WW did you use?

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