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Aluminum13
10-26-2020, 08:30 AM
New Electra Glide need advise (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/motorcycle-care/127853-new-electra-glide-need-advise.html)




I just upgraded to a new 2020 Harley and want to seal it before I get to far from “clean”.

There is so much information here it gets a wee bit overwhelming so I thought I would ask here in case there was some new or outstanding products or techniques that I should be looking into.

I have not detailed in many years and have been looking through as much as I can here but I’m looking to find the best way to coat or seal the bike before I get it too far gone that I have to do for correction.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks for your time.


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Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 08:36 AM
First - because this is your first post to the forum,

Welcome to AutogeekOnline!


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I just upgraded to a new 2020 Harley and want to seal it before I get to far from “clean”.

There is so much information here it gets a wee bit overwhelming so I thought I would ask here in case there was some new or outstanding products or techniques that I should be looking into.




There is a ton of info on this forum - that's what makes it both powerful and overwhelming.


There's not a ton of paint on any motorcycle to detail. But what there is - you do want to take care of it. There's a million ways to skin this cat but my first question,

Are you doing all your work by hand?

Or do you won a polisher?


Even a small polisher for small areas like the fenders, gas tank, fairing, etc.


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Aluminum13
10-26-2020, 08:41 AM
I was thinking on a DA if I could not get by with doing it by hand. If I get it early enough I may not need much correction but down the road it may be needed. I ride a lot and want to make sure I do it right from the beginning as this bloody thing is an expensive skoot!

Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 09:02 AM
I was thinking on a DA if I could not get by with doing it by hand.



I don't polish many motorcycles, mostly because it doesn't interest me. Also because it's a pain in the butt.






If I get it early enough I may not need much correction but down the road it may be needed.



You're doing the right thing, that is being PRO-ACTIVE and getting some protection on the bike NOW while it's new and in great shape.






I ride a lot and want to make sure I do it right from the beginning as this bloody thing is an expensive skoot!




Here's what I would do, and just did to a truck this last weekend. Get yourself a tube of the new Dr. Beasley's Z1 and a bottle of Pinnacle Black Label Surface Coating.

Hand apply the Z1 and then wipe off immediately using new, clean un-contaminated microfiber towels. This will clean the paint surface and leave it ready to coat. It actually coats it on it's own too.

Then mist on some of the PBL Surface coating and wipe it off immediately.

The paint on your bike will be slippery and super glossy. You'll avoid micro-marring it and moving forward, use the PBL OFTEN. It's easy to use often because it's fast and easy. It's a really nice product.


See my article here,


Coated under 15 minutes using PBL Surface Coating (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/123681-coated-under-15-minutes-using-pbl-surface-coating.html)




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Aluminum13
10-26-2020, 09:07 AM
Thanks, that is a good start for me. I am bring it home today and hope to work on it ASAP if my azz will stay out of the saddle! It is a silver blue two tone so better than my last bike that was vivid black!

Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 09:40 AM
Hang tight,

Just took some pictures, going to write an brand new article for something I worked on this weekend.



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Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 10:42 AM
Here you go...


Simple By Hand System to Clean, Polish and Ceramic Coat your Motorcycle (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/127855-simple-hand-system-clean-polish-ceramic-coat-your-motorcycle.html)



FWIW

And my brother-in-law owns a totally bitchen motorcycle, not sure the make or model but it's all dressed out.

Just to put the above simple system to the full real-world test, I'll have it bring it down and I'll detail it using the products I've recommended.


Enjoy you new bike - stay safe my friend.


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Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 10:45 AM
The above article from start to finish took me one hour to create.

Who knows how many people it will help into the future?


Thanks for joining our forum, like I said previously, there's a million ways to skin this cat.

If you want to make it super simple, get a quart of the BLACKFIRE One Step and hand apply it.

One and done and super super easy to use.

Best of all - you can use the BF One Step on all your vehicles. You will want to get a dual action polisher though.


Review: BLACKFIRE One-Step Cleaner/Wax by Mike Phillips (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyb7ew7o8)


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Stormin08
10-26-2020, 01:08 PM
personally after having done my Black Road King numerous times...i always reverted to polishing by hand. unfortunately, i never did a coating. being the type of vehicle i enjoyed breaking down to clean, i always preferred polishing and waxing. just had a deeper appearance when complete.

Mike Phillips
10-26-2020, 01:16 PM
i always preferred polishing and waxing. just had a deeper appearance when complete.



Nothing wrong with that...

Million ways to skin this cat for sure. AND - most waxes and sealants also leave the paint feeling slippery.

The thing about whatever it is you do leaving the paint slippery is that, at least in my mind, slippery paint will be less likely to mar. The painted surfaces on motorcycles tend to get touched more, at least the gas tank.


I have this coming in and I know it needs attention on the paint polishing side.


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:cheers:

Aluminum13
10-26-2020, 03:36 PM
Thanks for all the advise! I live in the desert and ride a lot so the dust and grime is hard on a nice finish hence the idea of get this done before I mess up a nice new paint job. I will give these ideas a go and post up how it looks.

Stormin08
10-27-2020, 06:01 AM
like stated earlier, for me (non sandy conditions), i prefer the waxing over the coating as the coating slightly hardens the surface and any imperfection is some what locked in...if you are anything like my self, i take pride and enjoy cleaning my bike. it relaxes me, but when i see a slight mar or indication...i can easily hand polish and restore, versus fighting a coating

i would suggest to start with a good look over, polish what is needed, and apply a good carnuba wax. Not sold here but on harley paint particularly, Wizards detailing spray seems to work amazingly well. i am more than certain others will also, but i always keep a bottle in my side bag.

Aluminum13
10-28-2020, 09:41 AM
Living in Arizona and with the dust out here I have been told to stay away from wax as it is a magnet to dust and we have it everywhere. I have little knowledge on ceramics or any other coatings but my last wax job worked out well for a bit but the dust and grime seemed to love my bike and black shows everything! Now I have a new blue and silver two tone.

TonesGTO
11-01-2020, 09:57 AM
Something I have learned over the years both as a rider and one that sold Harleys, most guys have no idea how to care their bikes. These guys love using pledge to clean and "polish" their bikes. Seriously I've come across hundreds that think totally swirled paint is perfect just because it has ashine to it. The best thing you can do is a ceramic coating especially on the batwing since they tend to get most abuse.

jmorlan
11-01-2020, 01:35 PM
Over the years with my bikes Iíve learned it isnít the paint that is so much the hard part. Itís the black metal on the cylinder heads and case, and the water that gets in the nooks and crannies. Once that stuff gets water spots, game over. I use compressed air or a small blower to blow these areas out, and spray them with pig spit. It repels water, doesnít attract dust and isnít greasy. Leaves a nice dressed look.
There may be a better way or product and Iíd love some information also if there is.

Enjoy it!


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