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bryansbestwax
03-31-2008, 01:09 PM
what is a good range to buy from Menzerna?, I don't want fillers.

richy
03-31-2008, 01:12 PM
There's so much overlap IMO but SIP and 106ff should be all you really need.

MadOzodi
03-31-2008, 04:00 PM
There's so much overlap...

Indeed...Most of us who are weekend warriors get by with SIP and 106FF/FA. I would suggest purchasing 106FF/FA first before anything else, and seeing if you need something more aggressive.

I have 85U, which I have yet to use, and 106FA. I don't plan on purchasing IP/SIP until I meet a car that needs it.

makdaddy626
03-31-2008, 04:05 PM
I think to give you the best possible answer to your question we need to know what you are hoping to accomplish. Is this for your own vehicle only (if so, what are they and what condition are they in?), or will these be used on a wide range of vehicles in various conditions?

Generally speaking, get the formulas for the scratch resistant clear coats as they'll work on anything, SIP will take care of almost anything short of something that needs a compound, Nano (106ff) will serve for lighter corrections and finishes to an amazing shine. You can add Power Gloss if you need heavy compounding and P85RD (micro) if your cars are basically swirl free and you want the LEAST abbrasive polish for jeweling.

Gary Sword
03-31-2008, 04:06 PM
PO106FF and PO85RD.

trhland
03-31-2008, 04:38 PM
:iagree:

Rsurfer
03-31-2008, 05:09 PM
PO106FF and PO85RD.
Not to steal this thread, but I know you keep your cars in top shape. I plan to polish with 106ff with white low profile pad. Can I use a blue or red finishing pad to jewel the paint, or should I use 85RD? Gary, do you see much difference between the two as far as jeweling? Thanks.

MadOzodi
03-31-2008, 05:11 PM
Really? I was under the impression that 106FF/FA and 85RD finished so close that you need either one or the other, but not both.

Whoops, I meant to quote Mr. Sword in my response.

Rsurfer
03-31-2008, 05:19 PM
Really? I was under the impression that 106FF/FA and 85RD finished so close that you need either one or the other, but not both.

Whoops, I meant to quote Mr. Sword in my response.
That's what I thought, but after seeing Gary's post reccomending both, I thought I would ask. Maybe he's using the 85RD for light polishing. Hope he chimes in.

MadOzodi
03-31-2008, 05:29 PM
Have you been struggling with whether to buy 85RD or 87MC like I have Rsurfer?

ScottB
03-31-2008, 05:50 PM
106FF has a little more bite initially but finishes up as well if not better than FP and 085rd. I suggest 106FF and SIP also as a super combo.

A little hint, the new Wolfgang 3.0 polishes are quite similar to SIP and 106FF and work as well together too.

Al-53
03-31-2008, 07:14 PM
To me..PO85RD brings the gloss up a little more on Reds..Blacks Yellows and darker colors than 106FF...85RD is slightly less abrasive...and it seems to just mirror out on darker colors more so than 106FF...

106FF will give a great finish by all means..but the 85RD goes a bit higher in the gloss and finished look....

Al

Rsurfer
03-31-2008, 07:56 PM
Have you been struggling with whether to buy 85RD or 87MC like I have Rsurfer?
Yes I have been. Looks like 87MC has the least cut on a scale of l to 5. 87 is a 1. Guess it would be good for light marring or jeweling the paint?? Looks like most are using 106 followed by 85. Has anyone used 87MC?? I'm confused. LOL

Rsurfer
03-31-2008, 08:00 PM
To me..PO85RD brings the gloss up a little more on Reds..Blacks Yellows and darker colors than 106FF...85RD is slightly less abrasive...and it seems to just mirror out on darker colors more so than 106FF...

106FF will give a great finish by all means..but the 85RD goes a bit higher in the gloss and finished look....

Al
Hi Al, have you tried 87MC for final polish? Seems to have the least amount of cut. I guess if you wanted to strip off your old wax or sealant and have paint in very good condtion this might be the least aggressive product to use. You know us Geeks are always trying out new stuff.

MadOzodi
03-31-2008, 09:30 PM
LOL, where's the smilie that shows the little round guy banging his head against the brick wall?

:D