Quickest application and longevity of protection

[JHL88]

I haven't posted in a while so I'm a little out of touch with the detailing world at the moment. Im trying to get back into it since I just bought a new truck.

Im looking for something that has some decent durability without spending a good chunk of time applying like I would a traditional sealant/wax - especially since its a full size pickup. I found a bottle of Mckees37 10 minute Paint Sealant. Has anyone tried it? Ive read some good reviews on their site but no real mention of it here.

What else would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance!

[57Rambler]

Closest thing to that 10 Minute Paint Sealant that is sold on AG is this :

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal, paint sealant (https://www.autogeek.net/spray-on-paint-sealant.html)


Alternately, you might look in to one of the spray & rinse sealants ... even easier to apply but likely less longevity.


SONAX Spray + Seal, spray sealant, spray-on rinse-off (https://www.autogeek.net/sonax-spray-and-seal.html)

BLACKFIRE HydroSeal, paint coating, spray-on coating, sio2 spray (https://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-hydroseal-paint-coating.html)

[TMQ]

Optimum Spray wax. Spray, wipe and done. 6 month protection. Easy peachy...

Duragloss Aqua spray wax is nice one.

Meguiar's spray wax is one...

There's a bunch of spray waxes out there with good durability.

Tom

[TMQ]

Here's a good one!

I like the concept.

OPT Wash-Clay-Wax - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aLOJKKM1k)

Tom

[JHL88]

Here's a good one!

I like the concept.

OPT Wash-Clay-Wax - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aLOJKKM1k)

Tom

Tom,

I ended up ordering optiseal and OCW! Turns out I had $50 credit on autopia so i basically got it for free. Question though... have you used optiseal on matte/satin wheels by chance?

[TMQ]

I use the Optimum Car Wax. Have not experienced the Opti Seal.

Did a bit search and found this: Matte wheels - Optimum Products Discussion - Optimum Forum (http://optimumforums.org/topic/62523-matte-wheels/)

Tom

[WillSports3]

You can use Optiseal on everything except for Interior glass. And it is one of the quickest and longest lasting protections you can get. Plus the chemistry supports the actual protection level behind it.

[acuRAS82]

I’ve used 10 Min. Paint Sealant. It’s quick to apply and can be used as a drying aid after your initial coat is on (at least that’s my recommended order).

It beads very impressive for the first few weeks and then diminishes significantly for me. Hence why I would continue to use as a one-spray-per-panel drying aid. It may last much longer than a few weeks but I never let it go longer than that because I want the top beading performance.

I haven’t used it much lately because it’s been surpassed by other products in my collection, but it’s still good for what it is: quick applying, decent beading up front, tons of applications per bottle. But in my opinion WG CSC is the same thing but better and high performance remains much longer, for me.

[WillSports3]

You gotta remember that protection and beading are two different things. I can add a beading agent to water and it can make your paint bead like crazy. Won't protect it against much though. Best way to test protection vs beading is after the beading is gone, hose the area dry it. Then take something brightly coloured like strawberry juice and let it sit on the paint. If you need clay or polish it off after a day, then the protection is gone. If you can just get some water and rinse and wipe it off, protection is still there. I say strawberry juice because it has very weak acids in it, but really any commercial fruit juice will do.

[acuRAS82]

I can generally tell if protection exists (particularly if any good amount of protection exists) from touching the paint. How good the protection I can only tell by what’s going on when the car gets really dirty.

I will say that the only etching I’ve ever noticed was from a certain ceramic wax (on a hood that has a lot of etching from a previous owner), and from Cancoat. At least where I live, LSPs with that boast polymers (sealants, Hybrid waxes, ceramic spray sealants) seem to prevent etching and leave the car relatively defect free (barely a need to clay after a year and barely any dirt being on a pad after polishing).

But I do often correlate beading as an indicator of just how much protection remains. Even if that gives me false indication, the self-cleaning effects are important to me. But I notice many sealants lose a decent percentage of water behavior performance in the first month but then hang tight for another 4-5 months before feeling like it has lost most protection.

[WillSports3]

Ya the hydrophobic factor is an indicator of the beading agent. There's some LSPs that aren't made to be hydrophobic, it just depends on the chemical mixture. Cancoat's weakness is that it needs to remain thin to be able to be sprayed out, so per ounce, it's much less concentrated in terms of the various siloxanes due to more solvents needed to keep it more liquid-y.

Not arguing with you at all, just want people in general to know that beading and protection level are two different things.

Interestingly enough, if you were to judge protection only by beading, then nothing on the market lasts for more than a month except for true ceramic coatings lol

[DMiglio]

I’ve used the McKees 10 minute paint sealant in the past. It works similarly to Optiseal, can be used wet(drying aid) or dry(Spray sealant) and on all exterior surfaces.

As a drying aid it created a very slick surface and only required 1 pump per panel, larger panels(roof/hood) I’d use 2-3. It can leave an “oil-smear” effect just like Optiseal if applied to heavily, just come back with a dry towel and it picks it right up! Adds about a month of protection on a 24/7 outdoor daily driver.

As a spray sealant, you can apply it by towel, by applicator or directly to panel and spread it out. Same process, one spray per panel up to 2 maaaaaaybe 3 on larger panels. I was seeing about 3 months of protection on my car which again outside 24/7.

I must say I didn’t find it to be an extremely strong beader(still good though!) even when fresh. It didn’t impress me as much as I’d hoped, but unfortunately ceramics and the performance they offer will do that to you.

Sorta one of those “once you see it you can’t unsee it” type of situation.

If you were my neighbor and you asked me this question and had no products whatsoever, I’d give you my bottle of Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating and Wet Wax. It applies quickly, is very forgiving to first time users, and should give you what you’re looking for in a product. The Wet Wax is a great drying aid, tops up the protection, adds gloss and slickness.

So after all I’ve written what do I recommend.. just use what you’ve got! I’d at least give it a shot as a spray sealant and then once as a drying aid. You can test it’s performance, get an idea for it’s ease of use and see what you think of the product. Reviews are great but as with most things YMMV, so always best to try out what you’ve got.

Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating 16 oz. (https://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-solutions-ceramic-wax-coating-53409.html)

Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Wet Wax - 53410 (https://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-solutions-ceramic-wet-wax-53410.html)

Optimum Opti-Seal 8 oz. Free Bonus! (https://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-seal.html)

Edited to add links! Spelling errors may remain ;)

[PA DETAILER]

Indeed. My 2 picks would be...

1. TW HS Spray coating.
2. TW HS Wet wax.

[DMiglio]

Indeed. My 2 picks would be...

1. TW HS Spray coating.
2. TW HS Wet wax.

Haha funny you post just after me and say the same recommendations as me. I was actually thinking you and about how much you like both products!

[PA DETAILER]

For sure. For the easy application and results of both products i personally can't see it being any better. For example, after a wash and the truck sits, then it rains, the truck dries spot free. Like the rain never happened. Cant see getting more hydrophobic than that.