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Bill1234
07-18-2020, 08:06 PM
Was looking into getting a stick welder pre covid but now with covid it might be good to start with so little to do other than detailing. Its outdoors, away from people and can keep my busy.

So far ive been looking at the miller thunderbolt 160
esab 180
lincoln electric 210 mp.

Preferably id want the first two machines but it may be worth it to get the 210 if I can find a rebate eventually.

Ive never attempted it and ive heard start with stick which seems fine. I just dont have a big enough outlet in the right locations so id have to put one in for the 230v machine part.

Any recs here from experienced welders would be appreciated

PaulMys
07-18-2020, 08:19 PM
I've only done tack welding in all my years.

My other "welds" were non-professional to say the least. They held, but I wouldn't want a guy in a shark cage relying on them. Lol

Bill1234
07-18-2020, 08:26 PM
I've only done tack welding in all my years.

My other "welds" were non-professional to say the least. They held, but I wouldn't want a guy in a shark cage relying on them. Lol

im not doing anything structural yet, just getting a machine and running beads then doing more like trailers, storage, etc

Sizzle Chest
07-18-2020, 09:04 PM
Depending on what you are going to weld, look into a MIG. Easy to learn with, great results, can upgrade from flux core to a bottle/gas and get outstanding welds/beads.

FUNX650
07-18-2020, 09:59 PM
The below is a most excellent multi-purpose unit,
(very similar to some of the ones I used at work).

MILLER MULTIMATIC 220
AC/DC Multi-Process Welder

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/3711C3AA-0BC2-488F-8AC9-E2F26783E8BD.jpeg


I highly recommend it. :dblthumb2:


Bob

john b
07-18-2020, 10:39 PM
if your going stick- go with lincoln

ducksfan
07-18-2020, 10:40 PM
I agree with Scott. Get a MIG welder. Later, you can get a TIG welder If you want more versatility.

Bill1234
07-19-2020, 11:00 AM
Issue is I might be doing thicker steel which mig cannot do. Mig also gets expensive

TNcoupe
07-19-2020, 11:54 AM
I just bought an Everlast 225 multi process that does MIG TIG and stick. Happy with the MIG so far and trying to learn TIG, have yet to try the stick as Ive Ive welded is sheet metal so far.

Bill1234
07-19-2020, 01:19 PM
The miller 160 is like an everlast 225 that just does stick on dual voltage. Then theres the lincoln mp 210 which is more than double the price but can do mig tig and stick I think or just mig and tig.
Personally might be better to just get a thunderbolt first

FUNX650
07-19-2020, 01:35 PM
Issue is I might be doing thicker steel
which mig cannot do.

•Say what? Strangely enough...I’ve mig
welded steel up to 1” thick; all it takes is:
-select the correct wire thickness/type,
wire feed speed, etc. Eazy Peazy.



Mig also gets expensive


•True.
-Most welding/welding consumables aren’t cheap.
-That’s where the job-pricing process comes into play.


Bob

FUNX650
07-19-2020, 01:48 PM
Personally might be better to just
get a thunderbolt first
Again I’ll suggest to get the aforementioned
MILLER MULTIMATIC 220
AC/DC Multi-Process Welder

It has dual voltage (110/120 & 220/240); can
weld: stick, MIG, AC/DC TIG; it has pulse function,
HF TIG start; and a wire feed speed range of 600 IPM.

IMO:
No need to keep buying other machines/upgrades.
Get all you need at one time—in one unit.


Bob

TNcoupe
07-19-2020, 06:50 PM
Again I’ll suggest to get the aforementioned
MILLER MULTIMATIC 220
AC/DC Multi-Process Welder

It has dual voltage (110/120 & 220/240); can
weld: stick, MIG, AC/DC TIG; it has pulse function,
HF TIG start; and a wire feed speed range of 600 IPM.

IMO:
No need to keep buying other machines/upgrades.
Get all you need at one time—in one unit.


Bob

The exact reason I went with multi process for my welder. I rarely weld thick metal but I like having the stick option cause I dont need a gas bottle and I can pick up rods at Lowes if I absolutely need to weld something right now.