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Diezel
06-29-2020, 06:19 PM
Hello everyone,

I just purchased a new car, first one in 11 years so I know a lot has changed in that time and I want to start off with trying out a ceramic coating, I have been using Klasse on my old vehicle. I’ve basically purchased the entire lineup of Gyeon products and for the coatings, I will try out CanCoat with Cure for maintenance. If I like CanCoat then when it wears off I may try one of the real full blown coatings like Syncro. My question is it says that CanCoat can be used on trim also, but is it better than Trim? What are the differences? Is it worth also buying Trim when you already have a can of CanCoat?

Thank you!

PaulMys
06-29-2020, 06:38 PM
I hope The Guz (Mike) chimes in on this. He will have the answers you need, and with the greatest of detail.

And....... Welcome to AGO! :)

TTQ B4U
06-29-2020, 06:46 PM
I use both extensively. Can coat can be used on plastic trim but it won't change the color of it. Q2Trim will darken it up nicely AND protect it.

I used it on my wifes vehicle over 2yrs ago and it still going quite strong. No more need to use any products on the moldings. They look freshly dressed all the time. https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/170836980/original.jpg

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PaulMys
06-29-2020, 07:07 PM
Or TTQ. Lol

The Guz
06-29-2020, 07:34 PM
Hello everyone,

I just purchased a new car, first one in 11 years so I know a lot has changed in that time and I want to start off with trying out a ceramic coating, I have been using Klasse on my old vehicle. I’ve basically purchased the entire lineup of Gyeon products and for the coatings, I will try out CanCoat with Cure for maintenance. If I like CanCoat then when it wears off I may try one of the real full blown coatings like Syncro. My question is it says that CanCoat can be used on trim also, but is it better than Trim? What are the differences? Is it worth also buying Trim when you already have a can of CanCoat?

Thank you!

Q2 Trim looks better and performs better on trim than CanCoat. CanCoat is a great product though and you will be happy with it.

I wasn't sold on Syncro when I tried it out. Skin is great but degrades too fast. Budget and I had similar results with Skin failing around the 5-6 month time frame. After that you start to see Mohs which is not that impressive on it's own. By the way Budget and I are in different areas of the states. He sees a harsh winter and I get the So Cal weather. If I were to recommend a coating I would recommend a cquartz coating. Lived up to its claims and performance for me.

acuRAS82
06-29-2020, 11:00 PM
Based on TTQ and Guz, sounds like Q2 Trim is pretty amazing and lasts a long time.

Have either of you used anything better, or is Trim the best in your experience?

BudgetPlan1
06-30-2020, 12:00 AM
...oops

The Guz
06-30-2020, 01:52 AM
Based on TTQ and Guz, sounds like Q2 Trim is pretty amazing and lasts a long time.

Have either of you used anything better, or is Trim the best in your experience?

Most trim coatings are about the same. They all have similar characteristics and performance. Off the top of my head I have tried CarPro DLUX, Gyeon Trim, Gtechniq C4, Adams Trim and I go right back to DLUX. DLUX is not only best bang for the buck as it can be used on plastics, trim and wheels. For me it also gives the better darkening of the ones I mentioned. Gtechniq is a close second in the darkening aspect. Gyeon Trim is more matte as is Adams Trim. Paint coatings work but they don't darken as much as a trim coating.

TTQ B4U
06-30-2020, 07:25 AM
Q2 Trim looks better and performs better on trim than CanCoat. CanCoat is a great product though and you will be happy with it.

I wasn't sold on Syncro when I tried it out. Skin is great but degrades too fast. Budget and I had similar results with Skin failing around the 5-6 month time frame. After that you start to see Mohs which is not that impressive on it's own. By the way Budget and I are in different areas of the states. He sees a harsh winter and I get the So Cal weather. If I were to recommend a coating I would recommend a cquartz coating. Lived up to its claims and performance for me.


Can coat is my go-to for entry level coatings. I charge a basic $99 for it as an upgrade for customers that normally look to a basic 1-Step. It's lasts longer and it's hydrophobic properties and dirt resistance are light years above a sealant or wax. Most everyone who I see goes with it over a standard product. Works fantastic, is easy to use and a single can will yield a number of vehicles so it's very profitable.

In terms of Syncro, as Guz notes, I think it's weather and climate dependent. My wife's car is wearing it and it's going super strong still after nearly just over 2yrs and nearly 32k miles. The only thing I top it with after washes is a basic detail spray such as ECH20 mixed up or lately I've been using Beadmaker as it's super slick and works great for short-term life. I think together they have helped protect the coating. I don't sell it as often as I do CarPro UK 3.0 and Gliss v2 combined but I take blame for that as I'd rather work with a 2 layer system vs 3 layer. Money per hour is the same for me it's just I get tired :)


Based on TTQ and Guz, sounds like Q2 Trim is pretty amazing and lasts a long time.

Have either of you used anything better, or is Trim the best in your experience?

Q2 is my go-to but that's just me. I've not used Dlux only because I've been quite pleased with Q2.

Here's the finished look on my wife's car. This is close to the date I did the initial application. The one posted above, earlier in the thread, is from just a few weeks ago. It's awesome stuff.

https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/167725704/original.jpg


Slightly off-topic from Trim Coatings......

In terms of beading and how Cquartz with Gliss compares to Syncro, here you go
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/off-topic/43346-post-your-beading-shots-98.html#post1680842



Pay attention to the install dates and time that has gone by. I'm very happy with both.

TTQ B4U
06-30-2020, 08:30 AM
Here are a couple examples of Q2 Trim in Action:


This was a NEW vehicle brought to me for a full coating. Notice how it darkens up the trim and helps it continue to always look "just dressed" and super clean.

https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/167849800/original.jpg

https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/167849797/original.jpg

https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/167849814/original.jpg



Here it is on an F150 cargo cover. Still looks great to this day even though it sees a fair amount of sun.

https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/169329234/original.jpg


https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/169329244/original.jpg


https://pbase.com/timothylauro/image/169329243/original.jpg

Bruno Soares
06-30-2020, 09:23 AM
The only trim coating I've used is Dlux and I haven't had a reason to change. Like Guz said, it's nice that it also works on wheels and plastics. Very versatile and "cheap" as it covers several areas of the car.
It's a little sticky to apply but you just need to work small areas at a time and avoid wiping it too much, spread as evenly as possible and just level it a little and move on, avoid going back to areas you already worked on. For texture trim, just spread it evenly and that's it, no need to level.

Diezel
06-30-2020, 12:09 PM
Thank you all for the advice! Looks like I will be getting a bottle of GYEON Trim!

Since the car is new I will be doing a washing, GYEON Iron, GYEON Clay bar, GYEON Prep and then I got the GYEON Primer. It would seem like since I’m going through all this trouble, I should do a full blown coating like Pure or Syncro, but what I have gathered out of all the reviews I have read are that most coatings don’t seem to truly last for more than a year, there are always more layers added, lots of top coats, etc.... Seems like money saved to go with CanCoat, it seems to last about a year if maintained and I can do my car and my wife’s car for far less money, multiple times...

I’ll be sure to take some pictures when I get my new 2020 VW Passat R-Line all cleaned up and coated.

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Diezel
06-30-2020, 12:56 PM
Thank you all for the advice, looks like I will be buying a bottle of Trim!

I will be sure to post some pictures of my new car when I am finished. It will be quite a bit of work... wash, Iron, Claybar, Prep then Primer. Seems like since I am going through all this trouble I should just put a real coating on it, but I have my doubts about the full blown coatings. It seems like you still have to keep adding new “layers” or “topcoats”. CanCoat seems to be a good value for the dollar, I can coat my car and my wife’s car multiple times, seems more cost effective to me.

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Diezel
07-01-2020, 01:48 PM
Sorry for the double post, I didn't think the first one posted up!

MDicnMAn
07-09-2020, 02:52 PM
I use both extensively. Can coat can be used on plastic trim but it won't change the color of it. Q2Trim will darken it up nicely AND protect it.

I used it on my wifes vehicle over 2yrs ago and it still going quite strong. No more need to use any products on the moldings. They look freshly dressed all the time.



Is that a two year old application of CanCoat on the paint?!?