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Mike Phillips
06-15-2020, 03:55 PM
Live Detailing Class - Prep Wash for Paint Correction & Ceramic Coating - 2017 Shelby Mustang GT350


Here's the 2017 Shelby Mustang GT350 we did a prep wash and mechanical decontamination to in order to prep for paint correction and ceramic coating.


https://youtu.be/ZHGb4jLunvU




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PaulMys
06-15-2020, 05:08 PM
I still get a kick out of the "Old two door....." references, Mike. Lol

BSoares
06-15-2020, 06:55 PM
Awesome, I like the GT350 a lot.

Mike Phillips
06-16-2020, 10:11 AM
I still get a kick out of the "Old two door....." references, Mike. Lol




Yeah my comedy it a tick on the dry side. Some get it, some don't.



:)

acuRAS82
06-16-2020, 04:35 PM
I watched live, my first time. I enjoyed! Definitely will watch again, even if it’s informative background video while I finish my desk job.

Mike Phillips
06-17-2020, 11:01 AM
I watched live, my first time. I enjoyed!

Definitely will watch again, even if it’s informative background video while I finish my desk job.




Thanks for tuning in - in all of these videos I basically do a brain-dump on the topic whatever it is. I also share car wax history and other tidbits that apply to the project or process.


:)

acuRAS82
06-17-2020, 12:41 PM
Thanks for tuning in - in all of these videos I basically do a brain-dump on the topic whatever it is. I also share car wax history and other tidbits that apply to the project or process.


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I want to mention that I enjoy the live aspect. It brings out the realities we all face ourselves when doing our detailing. Like I believe the Mustang had dried before you started re-lubing for clay and technically you could have started claying immediately when the car was still wet to save time. You missed it because you were explaining things to a live audience. I miss things like that because my wife may come out and ask me some questions.

Either way, the live aspect brings out the reality in detailing, including how things don’t go exactly the way you plan and how to get back to the task at hand. This mimics real life for me so it’s nice to see.

john b
06-17-2020, 01:45 PM
those videos are fun to watch,you guys work together real good. what kind of towels did you use when washing?

acuRAS82
06-17-2020, 01:58 PM
those videos are fun to watch,you guys work together real good. what kind of towels did you use when washing?

He used the short nap grey all purpose towels. They come with a lot of products in bundles. Good towels.

Something like these (hopefully the same ones?):
Gray Edgeless Polishing Microfiber Cloth (https://www.autogeek.net/mf-t307gye12.html)

Mike Phillips
06-17-2020, 04:14 PM
Like I believe the Mustang had dried before you started re-lubing for clay and technically you could have started claying immediately when the car was still wet to save time.

You missed it because you were explaining things to a live audience.




Yep - that was a mistake on my part. Should have rinsed after washing and then right to claying.

Caught my mistake and owned-up to in "live" because I would rather admit a mistake then cause confusing about what we we're dong and thus what someone else should do if they want to follow the techniques and order shared in this video.

:dig:






Either way, the live aspect brings out the reality in detailing, including how things don’t go exactly the way you plan and how to get back to the task at hand.

This mimics real life for me so it’s nice to see.




Thanks for commenting.

What I like personally is sharing "how-to" info. After hosting 2 TV shows that are SO staged - I find instead of all the primping that goes into trying to make a TV show "look real", just turn the freaking cameras on and go with it.

Plus we're showing cars in the same fashion that I work by - that is - INSTEAD of TRYING to find a car to do something to - we just take WHATEVER I have in front of me and work with it. It's the real-deal.

We share more info in one of the "live" videos than we probably ever did in any of our TV shows. And it's fun too.

Nothing wrong with all the TV shows we did, they were fun to but like all TV shows - there's simply so much mock-up and staging when I "think" that what people really like is content that HELPS them, not theatrics.



:)

acuRAS82
06-17-2020, 05:11 PM
^^I agree 100% Mike.

Mike Phillips
07-13-2020, 10:56 AM
Shared here,

Questions and help needed with water filter? (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions-/126978-questions-help-needed-water-filter.html)


I dry all my cars off with the Guzzler Waffle Weave Drying towels. I share why I like them in this recent video.

Fast forward to the 40:38 time mark


https://youtu.be/ZHGb4jLunvU


Like I say in the video - I can dry any car with 3 of these towels and they can be had in a 3-pack.


Cobra 3 Pack The Supreme Guzzler Waffle Weave Towels, 20 x 40 inches (https://www.autogeek.net/3pacomiwawes1.html)



:)

Mike Phillips
07-22-2020, 02:14 PM
More....


After the prep wash and mechanical decontamination, the next day I did all the polishing work and then applied the PBL Diamond Ceramic Coating Pro.

Here's the link to the full write-up and the rest of the pictures.


Review: Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating Pro (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews-by-mike-phillips/126844-review-pinnacle-black-label-diamond-ceramic-coating-pro.html)


Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating PRO

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_022.jpg



Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating Pro

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_000.jpg



:)

Mike Phillips
07-22-2020, 02:22 PM
:bump:

Just received an e-mail from a car enthusiast that after watching this video had a few questions. I'll do my best to answer them and then send him the link to this thread.





Mike,

We have never met before, but I am a big fan of your show. I watch your videos when I have time regularly. I just finished the video of the deep clean of your brother in law’s GT350 Mustang.

I completely understand the cleaning to the glass. What product do you recommend for the deep glass cleaning? It looks like you used a Blackfire Product.

I understand the Iron removal as well. Also looks like a Blackfire product.



The product you see me using is this one,

BLACKFIRE Glass Water Spot Remover 32 oz. (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/live-detailing-classes-how-to-videos-with-mike-phillips-and-yancy-martinez/126758-live-detailing-class-prep-wash-paint-correction-ceramic-coating-2017-shelby-mustang-gt350.html)


This is ONLY for glass. You can use it by hand or machine and like I say in the video, any type of machine. Also any type of pad. I tend to use it with an orbital and a foam CUTTING pad. The product is THIN and I strongly recommend you shake it well before use. This is one product I think our chemist could THICKEN and also reformulate to help it stay in suspension better. Just my 30+ years of experienced observation. Nonetheless, it works great and I teach this product and this technique in all my car detailing classes.

Here's my review for this product and all those pictures are the REAL-DEAL - No mock-up. (lots of mock-up in our industry)


Review: BLACKFIRE Glass Water Spot Remover (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/2018-product-reviews-by-mike-phillips/121692-review-blackfire-glass-water-spot-remover.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3765/BFWSRemove_016.JPG


NOTE: As shared in the video - this polish is for TOPICAL glass polishing only. In order to remove actual scratches like wiper blade marks OUT of the glass you need to use a polish that contains Cerium Oxide. Yancy and I will be making a video that shows how to do this type of glass polishing in the future.

If you want to find out when that LIVE Detailing Class is coming up, subscribe to my newsletter here,

Sign-up for Mike's Tips & Techniques Newsletter (mike.phillips@autogeek.net)






The pre-wash deep cleaner, what brand was that?



I"m guessing, when you say PRE-WASH deep cleaner, you're referring to the IRON REMOVER. The product that bled red on the white paint. This product?

https://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/medium/IronRemoverSHELBY.JPG


If so, that is this product,

BLACKFIRE Iron Remover - 32 ounce (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogeek.net%2Fblackfi re-iron-remover.html)



Here's a video that shows how to use it. I have a how-to article (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews-by-mike-phillips/120974-review-blackfire-iron-remover-mike-phillips.html) but for some reason the pictures are not showing up?


https://youtu.be/15pcBNy1oV4



Also - I mentioned another article I wrote for the industry, this one,

The Car Insurance Analogy for using an Iron Remover by Mike Phillips (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions/108767-car-insurance-analogy-using-iron-remover-mike-phillips.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/Car_Insurance_01.jpg http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/Car_Insurance_02.jpg


An iron remover is one of those products you want to use but you don't actually want it to work - Mike Phillips










Also, on the clay bar you did….did I understand the video correctly that the rag you used was actually a clay rag?

If so, what is that called specifically on the site so I can locate?




Here's the link to this product,

Speed Master Clay Towel (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogeek.net%2Fspeed-master-clay-towel.html)



A few years ago, replacement for detailing clay were introduced. These replacement are a polymerized rubber with a pulverized abrasive in them. In case you didn't know, normal detailing clay is a type of plastic clay with pulverized abrasives in it. Here's my review and how-to article,

Review: Speed Master Clay Towel and Clay Mitt (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews-by-mike-phillips/124699-review-speed-master-clay-towel-clay-mitt.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3912/aSM_Clay_Towel_Mitt_026.JPG






You used an actual bar of clay for the graphics on the Mustang. That was just because the graphics could be more sensitive to the abrasion of the clay itself, correct?



Yes. For the graphics I used an ULTRA FINE clay as it's is safer than the rubber style clay replacements.

Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay - 2 Bars (https://www.autogeek.net/ultra-poly-detailing-clay.html)


If you have vinyl graphics with swirls and scratches, in my opinion, removing them is an "advanced skill set". I show how here,

Remove swirls scratches by machine in Vinyl Stripes Decals Graphics Corvette
(https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/127062-remove-swirls-scratches-machine-vinyl-stripes-decals-graphics-corvette.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4066/Vinyl_Stripes_Remove_Swirls_007.JPG







Finally, you mention this, but the video ends. You say that by claying the car, you have committed to at least 1 level of polishing the vehicle. What would you use to polish the vehicle? I assume you would use an orbital buffer with a fine micro fiber pad?




Yes, my rule of thumb as a professional detailer is - if I do ANY type of mechanical decontamination, (that's claying), then I've ALREADY committed to do at least ONE machine polishing step and that is to remove any marring inflcted by the mechanical decontamination process.

IN FACT - I wrote a brand new article on this exact topic this week.


Post date: July 21st, 2020

Clay mars soft paint - 2020 C8 Corvette - Soft Paint (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/127067-clay-mars-soft-paint-2020-c8-corvette-soft-paint.html)


This is called clay marring - 2020 C8 Corvette

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4068/Aggressive_Clay_Marring_02.JPG


NOTE: The above was me purposefully TESTING a new clay to see what it would do. After the testing, I switched over to the ULTRA FINE grade clay I referenced above in your question about clay towels.



Then - for the paint correction step for the Shelby Mustang, I machine polished the paint using Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover using the BEAST with RUPES 7" yellow foam polishing pads.

I share my process here,

Review: Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating Pro (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews-by-mike-phillips/126844-review-pinnacle-black-label-diamond-ceramic-coating-pro.html)






Would you then apply a coat of wax over the polish after with the buffer?



You could. You could apply a wax, a synthetic paint sealant or a ceramic coating. For this Shelby, I used and then reviewed a brand new ceramic coating.

Here's my process


Paint Correction

Step 1: Waterless wash
Step 2: Clayed paint using Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay and Pinnacle Clay Lube
Step 3: Machine polished paint using Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover using the BEAST with RUPES 7" yellow foam polishing pads.




How to prep the paint and install the Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating PRO


Step 1: Spray the Diamond Surface Prep Spray to a section of a panel and then using a clean, dry microfiber towel, spread the product over the section and then flip to a clean dry side and remove the spray residue.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_003.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_004.jpg



IMPORTANT: It's important that you use plenty of clean, un-contaminated microfiber towels to avoid cross-contamination during this prep spray process.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_005.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_006.jpg



Mike's Pro Technique Tip

Before you ever use any microfiber towels on your car's finish you should first visually and through your sense of touch, inspect the towels. Microfiber towels by their very nature are grabby. We love them because of how well they GRAB onto spray residues as well as compound, polish and wax residues, but in this same way they excel at removing unwanted substances off your car's finish they also excel at grabbing un-wanted contaminants onto them and into their weave. Things like sticks, leaves, dead bugs, etc. If you have not read this article or watched the video where I show how to correctly inspect your towels, take a moment to do so.

How, why & when to inspect your microfiber towels when detailing cars (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-to-articles-by-mike-phillips/110907-how-why-when-inspect-your-microfiber-towels-when-detailing-cars.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/3801/Pro_Ceramic_Coating_Wash_003.JPG






Step 2: Install the coating working small sections at a time.

If you're new to ceramic coatings, the coating world has it's own lingo. The word install simply means to apply. I'm not sure who chose to coin the word install instead of simply using the word apply but as the saying goes, once the Genie is out of the bottle, it's kind of difficult to put the Genie back into the bottle. So don't be confused, you're going to APPLY the coating. :)



First place a row of drops across the face of one side of a coating applicator like this,


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_008.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_009.jpg



Apply the coating using a crosshatch motion

Then using a crosshatch pattern, apply and spread the coating to a section of paint no larger than around 2' by 2'. Basically divide larger panels like the roof, hood, doors and fenders into smaller sections. Then apply using a back-n-forth and side-to-side motion. Normally you make this crosshatch pattern 4 times over each section of paint and this is to ensure full and even coverage of the coating over the paint.


Here I'm moving the applicator front to back, that is away from me and then back towards me...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_010.jpg

And here's the final results....

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/4055/PBL_Pro_015.jpg




But "yes" you could keep it a lot more simple and apply your favorite car wax.






Thank you very much!

Buck





Okay, I've broken up your e-mail into smaller bite-size chunks to make it easier to answer.

Note by taking this to the FORUM - I'm able to insert,


Links to the products you ask about.
Links to more topical information
Pictures.
Videos



And - MORE people can see the questions and the answers versus if I would have replied in an e-mail. And if history is any indicator, THOUSANDS of people will see this thread and thus the information. While I love Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, you simply CANNOT share this kind of information on those social media platforms. Thus I can't help someone on those social media platforms like I can on this forum. There's all good, it's just each has it's own strength and each has it's own weakness.


Hang tight will I type out the answers.


As I type it's 3:25pm, July 22nd, 2020. After I'm finished, I'll share what time it is and this shows how much time I invest into Autogeek's Customer Care on the forum.



:)

Mike Phillips
07-22-2020, 03:25 PM
As I type it's 3:25pm, July 22nd, 2020.

After I'm finished, I'll share what time it is and this shows how much time I invest into Autogeek's Customer Care on the forum.



Just finished and according to the clock on the wall in my office, it's now

4:25Pm


It took me approximately 1 hour to find all the information I shared above, then format it via pure BB Code or WYSIWYG to insert it into my reply to both answer your questions and give you links and more info.


I hope that helps and I hope you can see how a forum enables me to share this kind of detailed information that I can NEVER share in an e-mail.


and the good news, is... it doesn't cost anything.


Click here to join the AutogeekOnline.net car detailing discussion forum - THE best forum on the Internet (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/register.php)




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