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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 01:01 PM
Looks like its past the point of no return or just severely oxidized? Can it be fixed? (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-mike-phillips-your-detailing-questions-/126552-looks-like-its-past-point-no-return-just-severely-oxidized-can-fixed.html)



My sister-in-law's hood appears to be suffering from severe oxidation or possible clear coat failure.

This looks like the point of no return for me but I would like a 2nd opinion please.

If it can be fixed, what would be the recommended fix for this?

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Dr Oldz
05-25-2020, 01:20 PM
Looks pretty bad. Perhaps Optimum clear coat restorer would help. Looks like AG doesn’t sell it though. Unless I’m missing it.

You can try compounding and you may get lucky.......Perhaps it was resprayed with single stage paint.

Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 01:27 PM
Looks pretty bad. Perhaps Optimum clear coat restorer would help. Looks like AG doesn’t sell it though. Unless I’m missing it.

You can try compounding and you may get lucky.......Perhaps it was resprayed with single stage paint.Dude, you are awesome brother. Maybe it was resprayed with single stage[emoji1] I have some Meguiar's #7 and 3D One as well.

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Rsurfer
05-25-2020, 01:45 PM
Looks like severe oxidation. A test spot will tell you what you will need. Do you have a polisher? Are you a detailer?

Mike Phillips
05-25-2020, 01:59 PM
I've seen oxidized clearcoats worse than that come back.

It just depends upon the history of the car or more specifically - the history of the paint.

Has it been chopped on by a caveman detailer all it's life or just neglected? This will in part determine how much paint is there or NOT there.

You might get lucky but you'll never know what you can do until you try.

I'd hit it with BLACKFIRE One Step, a foam cutting pad and the BEAST.


:)

Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 02:48 PM
I've seen oxidized clearcoats worse than that come back.

It just depends upon the history of the car or more specifically - the history of the paint.

Has it been chopped on by a caveman detailer all it's life or just neglected? This will in part determine how much paint is there or NOT there.

You might get lucky but you'll never know what you can do until you try.

I'd hit it with BLACKFIRE One Step, a foam cutting pad and the BEAST.


:)Just neglected, and probably ran through the swirl o matic a few times. I can recall when she first bought the car. As I can recall I have been the only one to detail it and I haven't done any paint correction on it. Thank you so much for your input on this! I don't know what I'd do without the forum! I will probably have to use my rotary as I don't have the BEAST right now, but I'll post some pics up when I get done! I'm sure it will turn out awesome! Thanks again brother! [emoji1]

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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 02:51 PM
Looks like severe oxidation. A test spot will tell you what you will need. Do you have a polisher? Are you a detailer?Roger that! Yes I am a detailer / weekend warrior / hobbyist. I currently have a Mac Tools battery operated rotary, of course looking to add to the collection in the future. Thank you so much for your input!

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Reno
05-25-2020, 06:03 PM
i think it can be done.
i have restored worse than that with one step

69694

this is a toyota corolla 2000, neglected, repainted and heavy oxidized

used a rupes mark III 15mm, yellow rupes pad and sonax perfect finish

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Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 06:08 PM
i think it can be done.
i have restore worse than that with one step

69694

this is a toyota corolla 2000, neglected, repainted and heavy oxidized

:xyxthumbs:




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Mike Phillips
05-25-2020, 09:21 PM
Nice!!! [emoji1] Products added to the cart! I cant wait to click checkout when I get paid! I'm exited now!




If you get the quart of the BF One Step - it's like gettig a second 16 ounce bottle for 10 bucks.

The best way to buy it is the 32 ounce bottle. This is why you never see me recommend the 16 ounce bottle. Plus once you use it once, the 32 ounce bottle won't last long, it's really good stuff.


:)

Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
05-25-2020, 09:41 PM
If you get the quart of the BF One Step - it's like gettig a second 16 ounce bottle for 10 bucks.

The best way to buy it is the 32 ounce bottle. This is why you never see me recommend the 16 ounce bottle. Plus once you use it once, the 32 ounce bottle won't last long, it's really good stuff.


:)Up sell APPROVED! Revising cart now! [emoji1] Thanks Mike!

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Rsurfer
05-25-2020, 09:44 PM
If you get the quart of the BF One Step - it's like gettig a second 16 ounce bottle for 10 bucks.

The best way to buy it is the 32 ounce bottle. This is why you never see me recommend the 16 ounce bottle. Plus once you use it once, the 32 ounce bottle won't last long, it's really good stuff.





:)


Up sell APPROVED! Revising cart now! [emoji1] Thanks Mike!

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Icarus
05-27-2020, 12:22 PM
It may come back but won't last. My '04 TJ had paint like chalk and would polish up decent but only last for a few months before going back to chalk.

Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN
07-10-2020, 03:35 PM
I've seen oxidized clearcoats worse than that come back.

It just depends upon the history of the car or more specifically - the history of the paint.

Has it been chopped on by a caveman detailer all it's life or just neglected? This will in part determine how much paint is there or NOT there.

You might get lucky but you'll never know what you can do until you try.

I'd hit it with BLACKFIRE One Step, a foam cutting pad and the BEAST.


:)Mike,

I've purchased all Items and more mentioned in this thread. I even bought a forced rotation DA. I'm going with the Lake Country Force Hybrid 5.5 inch pads.

My question is, should I hit the panel with the cutting pad and then refine with the polishing pad?

Should I do a test spot with just the cutting pad and then a test spot with the cutting and polishing pad and see what results are best then go with that combination?

Also I was thinking of adding an additional layer of protection with the 3D Cherry wax, a wax designed for darker colors. What are your thoughts on this? [emoji2]

I won't forget to count my section passes. [emoji2]

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PaulMys
07-10-2020, 05:23 PM
My question is, should I hit the panel with the cutting pad and then refine with the polishing pad?

Should I do a test spot with just the cutting pad and then a test spot with the cutting and polishing pad and see what results are best then go with that combination?





Always do a test spot with your least-aggressive combo. Then work up from there.

You could start heavy and be satisfied with your work, but what if a lighter approach does the same thing? You would be removing more clear than necessary. Make sense?