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HouTX
05-13-2020, 10:57 AM
Looking for AIO reconditioning product for fiberglass travel trailer (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101-a/126419-looking-aio-recco-fiberglass-travel-trailer.html)



Hi, new guy here with a new polisher and a couple questions. I inadvertently posted this in another forum, sorry for double post. I have a large 30’ travel trailer that I would like to clean up and protect. Primarily fiberglass, mild oxidation but not too bad. I did this a couple of years ago with meg 67 and tech wax with a cordless drill DA and it was a nightmare. Took forever and I found the compound very difficult to remove. Part of my issue is the weather and the inability to be in complete shade. It’s too large to get under cover so I am at the mercy of weather / time of day.

this time I will be using a flex 3401. I have lake country orange force hybrid 5.5 pads. Given that I will be at least partially in the sun can anyone recommend a good aio? I am leaning towards optimum gps. Haven’t heard much about the black fire aio in terms of working on a warm surface but the optimum seems to have good reviews in that regard. Poor boys?

Mike Phillips
05-13-2020, 11:24 AM
Haven’t heard much about the black fire aio in terms of working on a warm surface but the optimum seems to have good reviews in that regard.




I have a past student of my 3-day Detailing Bootcamp Class. His name is Wilfredo. He's not much on getting on computers plus he's really busy detailing high-end RVs.

Last year he cleared 1 million dollars with his RV detailing business. For the last few years he's done the majority of his RV detailing in Fort Lauderdale , Florida and most of it outside. It's hot there. And usually a tick on the humid side too.

He buys BLACKFIRE One Step by the gallons.

It will work or "buff" as good as anything and wipe-off will be super easy.


If you trust me on this, and if for any reason you're not happy, I'll have Customer Care refund your money or send you any other product.


Once you use this you'll say,

That guy was right


Also my go-to product for most of my production detailing and I mostly use the BEAST.


Be sure to do a TEST SPOT with any cutting pad and make sure the PAD is not leaving any micro-marring. IF so, switch to a foam "polishing" process.



:)

HouTX
05-13-2020, 11:35 AM
Thanks, will give the blackfire a try!

Bearcats98
05-13-2020, 02:35 PM
How can you miss with an offer like that!

pilotpip
05-13-2020, 03:18 PM
Can blackfire be worked in sunlight?

Here's my AIO experience. Product is no longer sold here, but I was happy. Now for something different (Travel Trailer Detail) (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/126005-now-something-different-travel-trailer-detail.html)

Mike Phillips
05-13-2020, 03:50 PM
Can blackfire be worked in sunlight?




You bet!

Did you READ what I wrote about my buddy Wilfredo clearing a million dollars buffing out high end RVs in FULL SUN!


:dunno:

Whipped500
05-13-2020, 03:52 PM
I have a past student of my 3-day Detailing Bootcamp Class. His name is Wilfredo. He's not much on getting on computers plus he's really busy detailing high-end RVs.

Last year he cleared 1 million dollars with his RV detailing business. For the last few years he's done the majority of his RV detailing in Fort Lauderdale , Florida and most of it outside. It's hot there. And usually a tick on the humid side too.

He buys BLACKFIRE One Step by the gallons.

It will work or "buff" as good as anything and wipe-off will be super easy.


If you trust me on this, and if for any reason you're not happy, I'll have Customer Care refund your money or send you any other product.


Once you use this you'll say,

That guy was right


Also my go-to product for most of my production detailing and I mostly use the BEAST.


Be sure to do a TEST SPOT with any cutting pad and make sure the PAD is not leaving any micro-marring. IF so, switch to a foam "polishing" process.



:)

Mike is the BF good on any fiberglass? I'm specifically getting at for a boat... which I guess is gelcoat in most cases.

While we are at it, what is it that differs from auto and marine/RV products?

Thanks

Mike Phillips
05-13-2020, 03:58 PM
Mike is the BF good on any fiberglass? I'm specifically getting at for a boat... which I guess is gel-coat in most cases.



And I would use the BF One Step in most cases as long as the oxidation is not to DEEP or severe. Just use a more aggressive pad to get more cut.






While we are at it, what is it that differs from auto and marine/RV products?

Thanks


That's a CAN OF WORMS.

I'd say from experience, most companies that sell product for Marine and RV use DON'T do a good job of educating their customers on their products and the HUGE differences between working on,

Gel-coat RVS
High-end PAINTED RVs

Gel-coat boats
Painted boats


And if you use the wrong product on the wrong type of surface/material you can either do nothing or really screw it up.


In a nutshell - usually MARINE product, meant for gel-coat are a LOT more aggressive than any product meant to be used on paint. Be the paint be on a car or an RV.


Most of your high-end RVs have very expensive basecoat/clearcoat paint jobs and a lot of Marine products like compounds, polishes and AIO's would be too aggressive.


Good question. It's real important that anyone detailing cars, boats and RVs FIRST find out what the heck they are working on and by this I mean - what is the surface material.

Then READ and make sure the product or products you're planning on using are safe for that material.



:)

Whipped500
05-13-2020, 04:10 PM
And I would use the BF One Step in most cases as long as the oxidation is not to DEEP or severe. Just use a more aggressive pad to get more cut.






That's a CAN OF WORMS.

I'd say from experience, most companies that sell product for Marine and RV use DON'T do a good job of educating their customers on their products and the HUGE differences between working on,

Gel-coat RVS
High-end PAINTED RVs

Gel-coat boats
Painted boats


And if you use the wrong product on the wrong type of surface/material you can either do nothing or really screw it up.


In a nutshell - usually MARINE product, meant for gel-coat are a LOT more aggressive than any product meant to be used on paint. Be the paint be on a car or an RV.


Most of your high-end RVs have very expensive basecoat/clearcoat paint jobs and a lot of Marine products like compounds, polishes and AIO's would be too aggressive.


Good question. It's real important that anyone detailing cars, boats and RVs FIRST find out what the heck they are working on and by this I mean - what is the surface material.

Then READ and make sure the product or products you're planning on using are safe for that material.



:)

Thanks! That's what I thought...but I also thought that marine/RV LSP's were more robust to last longer because of the harsh environment they are usually in.

57Rambler
05-13-2020, 06:55 PM
Blackfire One Step = The "Frank's Red Hot Sauce" of Car Detailing

Use that #@!% on everything !

:)

Mike Phillips
05-13-2020, 07:13 PM
Here’s Wilfredo’s Facebook page.

Lots of expensive RV’s plus lots of othe cool stuff.

Eclipse Mobile Detailing - Home | Facebook (https://m.facebook.com/Eclipse-Mobile-Detailing-260179894413412/)


Mobile Detailing | Eclipsemobiledetailing (https://www.eclipsemobiledetailing.com/)


If you scroll down far enough you’ll see pictures he shares from taking my 3-day class.


:)