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Theostoubos
04-07-2020, 02:19 PM
Hi all,

I wanted to repost this old write up that I did for a friend’s Black Porsche 944 Turbo, as the embedded photos from Photobucket could not be displayed properly anymore and I was hoping to share the write up with a local facebook group.

I’m not a pro, but every now and then I will do a friend’s car. I try to work on cars of people that will promise to start taking care of them. Nothing annoys me more than to put my heart and soul to bring a car “back to life” only to have it “destroyed” again.

So Andrew, the owner, promised me back in 2012 when I did this work, that going fwd he would take care of his 1985 Black Porsche 944 Turbo and he asked me if I would like to work on his car. So one cloudy Saturday morning I ended up with this outside of my garage.

Here is the car on arrival….

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49747135927_c2f379fc63_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMZ5m8)1 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMZ5m8) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49747135982_189ae97635_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMZ5n5)4 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMZ5n5) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Looks OK Right ? For a few minutes I thought that I might have it easy but when I started to look closer I saw the first “bad” signs… Evidence of the “previous guy”. I’m pretty sure we have all seen them.

Polish and Wax Residue….

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49746263828_6b18f62e3f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMUB6W)2 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMUB6W) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49746804471_04e643c2f2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMXnPn)3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMXnPn) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr


So first step was getting the car clean and stripping any protection in order to inspect the paint and get to see the real picture.

I re-write this post 8 years later and back in 2012 there were no ceramic coatings that I can remember of…. so after stripping by snow foaming with Meguiars APC 4:1 dilution, hand washing with “all-time classic Dawn”, and finally Claying with 3M Cleaner Clay, it was time to inspect the paint. Not very encouraging to say the least.

I was faced with all kind of defects, and the Black Flat paint was not forgiving at all.

So have a look. Pretty beat up…

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744045661_cf5ba92c25_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeHF)Front Right Fender - Before 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeHF) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743498498_f44c3e5be6_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEr4Q)Front Right Fender - Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEr4Q) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744373622_31db422f46_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJVdb)Rear Left Fender - Before 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJVdb) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744369402_2dc07cb109_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTXq)Door Left Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTXq) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744364597_a2213121ce_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwz)Right Door Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwz) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744045781_f3c5ca3dcd_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeKK)Hood (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeKK) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744371562_00595c6d43_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJUAE)Left Door and Rear Panel - Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJUAE) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Anyway, enough with the “torture”… You get the point…. Lets move on….


The agreement with the owner was not to hunt perfection but to shoot for the best finish that I could accomplish within the weekend.

So after a quick test on the paint I decided on:

Menzerna Powergloss POS34A on a LC Cyan Pad, followed by

Menzerna PO106 FA/SF4000 on a Tangerine HT pad.

I also tried finishing with Blackfire Finishing Polish and I was very pleasantly surprised with it as well.

Slowly but steady I was making some progress. This was my first time that I tried in the little time that I had, to document this and try some 50/50 and some before and after shots. So here is my effort on showing a bit of the story…. Don’t judge too hard and excuse my splatter as photos were taken after compounding but before final polishing.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744047046_c763657697_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHf8y)Left Door 50-50 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHf8y) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743500833_075ef72427_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMErL6)P1020880 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMErL6) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744372677_b31d05cdca_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJUVT)P1020883 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJUVT) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744367827_232125fa6e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTug)5050 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTug) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744045621_8f6984782c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeGZ)Front Right Fender - 50-50 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeGZ) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Before – Rear Quarter Panel

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743502158_c825aeab35_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEs9W)Rear Left Fender - Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEs9W) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

After – Rear Quarter Panel

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744049356_54f7782518_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHfPo)Rear Left Quarter After (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHfPo) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Before – Front Right Fender

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744045661_cf5ba92c25_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeHF)Front Right Fender - Before 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHeHF) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

After – Front Right Fender

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744364617_1913fd6c3c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwV)Right Front Fender - After (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwV) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Before – Left Door

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744369402_2dc07cb109_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTXq)Door Left Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTXq) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

50/50 – Left Door

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743496478_0e6bcae32b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEqt1)5050 4 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEqt1) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Completed – Left Door

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743497973_52b7bf861e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEqUM)Door Left After (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEqUM) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Before - Right Door

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744364597_a2213121ce_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwz)Right Door Before (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSwz) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

After – Right Door

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744044461_d6cb0d43c0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHemZ)Beauty 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHemZ) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Before – Roof

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49746443043_aab48e2270_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMVwnR)P1020837 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMVwnR) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

After – Roof

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743493033_248f006016_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEprB)Roof - After (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEprB) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

That last roof shot and correction was a tricky one. Someone once said “life is a like a box of chocolates. You never know what you ‘re gonna get”…. Well after I started compounding that roof this is what I ended up with….

Single Stage…


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743493163_389d733c0e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEptR)Single Stage Evidence (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEptR) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

After the end of day 1 there was just a bit of compounding left to be done. But I was definitely feeling that I was getting somewhere….

One of my favorite shots…


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744364637_7c6dc95f1a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSxg)Right Side - Halfway Through (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSxg) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

Next day I started early and after finishing the little compounding that was left to be done, the car was taken out to be foamed again and power washed in order to get rid of all the dusting from the compounding.

Finishing was done mainly with Menzerna SF 4000 and in some parts or panels I tried some Blackfire Finishing Polish. I was very happy with it.

After a thorough IPA wipe down the car was ready for LSP. No fancy stuff here. Two coats of Collinite 845 by a Random DA and then one coat of Zymol Creame by hand.

Didn’t have time to do a lot more, further than the paint, so I dressed the tires and treated the faded plastic trims. The main focus was the paint so please don’t judge too hard.

It was time to get the car out in the sun and get some final shots. I was very lucky as the sun is definitely not so generous in British Columbia (at the time of the work). Now in Edmonton.

So here are some final shots… I think it turned out pretty good considering where I started.

Enjoy and Thank You for reading.

Theo.

:xyxthumbs:

:buffing:


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744040571_aaf366bdd6_c.jpg[/URL]Top Beauty 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdcV) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743493273_1fa4645a85_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpvK)Top Beauty 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpvK) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743493488_cfdea7fa92_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpzs)Top Beauty 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpzs) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744367172_21cf862375_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJThY)15 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJThY) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744041791_65412cf060_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdyX)6 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdyX) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744368192_e040a77599_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTAy)Beauty 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTAy) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744365987_20ca98afc9_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSWx)3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSWx) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743495093_d1ed822aef_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEq48)9 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEq48) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744041791_65412cf060_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdyX)6 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdyX) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743494603_e9e355bba8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpUF)4 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMEpUF) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744369087_2d6fc1ba2d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTRZ)Beauty 11 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJTRZ) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744044976_0138797827_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHevS)Beauty 12 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHevS) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744042716_9e2ea4f915_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdQU)21 (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdQU) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744041161_b9420b7ecd_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdo6)Top Beauty 8 Roof (https://flic.kr/p/2iMHdo6) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744365752_85a1bfd2ca_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSSu)Top Beauty Right Side (https://flic.kr/p/2iMJSSu) by Theodore Stoubos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151670784@N06/), on Flickr


My Favourite Shot.



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Redvtwin2
04-07-2020, 02:23 PM
Fantastic job! Looks like a repaint!

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osudelt69
04-07-2020, 04:55 PM
Great work! I love a good transformation. Curious how it’s looks today, 8 years later


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PaulMys
04-07-2020, 05:27 PM
Awesome job! :dblthumb2:

Sizzle Chest
04-07-2020, 05:36 PM
Very nice work! Excellent results. Thanks for re-posting!

gofast182
04-09-2020, 12:42 PM
That is fantastic! Awesome transformation! Thank you for sharing!

It must've taken awful lot of product to get that kind of splatter, even so the results speak for themselves.

JDGolden
04-12-2020, 01:58 PM
Nice new paint job that you did. Lol. Great work, it’s wildly crisp and shiny.

Billy Baldone
04-12-2020, 02:13 PM
That looks amazing!!! What was the owner’s reaction? Blown away I hope

Theostoubos
04-13-2020, 11:46 AM
Great work! I love a good transformation. Curious how it’s looks today, 8 years later


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Awesome job! :dblthumb2:


Very nice work! Excellent results. Thanks for re-posting!


That is fantastic! Awesome transformation! Thank you for sharing!

It must've taken awful lot of product to get that kind of splatter, even so the results speak for themselves.


Nice new paint job that you did. Lol. Great work, it’s wildly crisp and shiny.


That looks amazing!!! What was the owner’s reaction? Blown away I hope

Thanks for the kudos guys.

The owner was indeed very happy with the car. A few months later he swapped the engine of the car to a Corvette V8 and then a few months later he sold the car.

Not sure what the car looks nowadays or even where it is. I have corrected other cars after this one, but that Black Porsche and the flat black paint always stuck with me.

Once the weather gets better here in Edmonton, I will do a good detail on both my cars and possibly post some photos.

Stay Healthy.