Pointless to pre-spray with ONR if I am doing a regular soap wash?

[wyclef]

Hey, is it pointless to pre-soak with ONR if I am doing a regular soap and water wash?

[acuRAS82]

Hey, is it pointless to pre-soak with ONR if I am doing a regular soap and water wash?

Not pointless at all. It’ll help soften the crud and add slight lubricity. I think of it as better safe than sorry and totally worth it if you have the pre-spray resources available. Worst case, you used $0.20 and 5 extra minutes of time that wasn’t needed. Best case, you cleaned better and reduced some swirling.

[john b]

totally a good idea

[PaulMys]

Not pointless at all. It’ll help soften the crud and add slight lubricity. I think of it as better safe than sorry and totally worth it if you have the pre-spray resources available. Worst case, you used $0.20 and 5 extra minutes of time that wasn’t needed. Best case, you cleaned better and reduced some swirling.

^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself ^^^

[57Rambler]

...totally worth it if you have the pre-spray resources available.

Agreed. And when it comes to "pre-spray resources" you can get by with something as simple as a pump-up hand sprayer like one of these :

Wolfgang Chemical Resistant Pressure Sprayer, pressurized spray bottle, pump sprayer (https://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-pressure-sprayer.html)

I found something similar locally, and a bit cheaper.

48oz. of solution (I use Uber at waterless ratio) is more than enough to pre-treat our mid-size SUV.

[Coatingsarecrack]

I agree with pre spraying car with something. If no foam cannon then yes get a garden sprayer and go to town with a rinseless/waterless pre soak.

I just got the IK 12 and use it to foam presoak when not using PW. I use a snow foam and its awesome. If not wanting to foam a handheld pump sprayer will be fine.

As Acura said, It can’t hurt and anything that provides lubricity will probably help.


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[wyclef]

Thanks! I have the IK 1.5 foamer that I use for wheels, haven’t been all that happy with it so I got the Marolex 2l pump sprayer I will use for the ONR which I really like doesn’t lose pressure as fast as the IK 1.5 foamer. Maybe the larger ones are better. Supposed to be in the high 40s over the weekend and sunny so probably will try out a few things. Anyone know if ONR wash and wax will work under 50 degrees? I was using Opticlean in 24 degree weather and it was clouding up on the panels a bit.

[Coatingsarecrack]

Thanks! I have the IK 1.5 foamer that I use for wheels, haven’t been all that happy with it so I got the Marolex 2l pump sprayer I will use for the ONR which I really like doesn’t lose pressure as fast as the IK 1.5 foamer. Maybe the larger ones are better. Supposed to be in the high 40s over the weekend and sunny so probably will try out a few things. Anyone know if ONR wash and wax will work under 50 degrees? I was using Opticlean in 24 degree weather and it was clouding up on the panels a bit.

Most sprayers will be fine to cover your car in one to two pump ups. Foamers need alot more air/pressure so all of them require alot more pumping.

Never used ONR. Most my rinseless’sxwork sub 50 degrees but they usually dont leave anything (wax/polymers) behind. That is usually component that will streak.


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[acuRAS82]

Anyone know if ONR wash and wax will work under 50 degrees? I was using Opticlean in 24 degree weather and it was clouding up on the panels a bit.
I have plenty of gloss WWs and RWs. As long as the surface is a few degrees above 32, they shouldn’t cloud. If the weather is barely above 32 and there is wind or no sun, you might have clouding. Anywhere above 35-36 shouldn’t cause issues.

Plus, you are only pre-treating with ONR and then washing. Shouldn’t have any issues above 32. NOTE: At 24 degF, even if using warm water to mix, I would expect any WW to start frosting/clouding within seconds after thinning on the surface.

[Rmd]

Does the pre-rinse with ONR happen after you spray car with hose to remove loose dust? Or, are you pre-soaking first, then rinsing followed by soap wash?
When I foam prior to bucket wash I’m foaming dirty car, then rinse, then soap wash. For rinseless wash, I pre-soak, then go right to using bucket of towels (Gary Dean) method. Never fully trusted the Big red sponge, but that’s a totally separate discussion.
Curious how you integrate rinseless solution into soap bucket wash process.

[Coatingsarecrack]

Does the pre-rinse with ONR happen after you spray car with hose to remove loose dust? Or, are you pre-soaking first, then rinsing followed by soap wash?
When I foam prior to bucket wash I’m foaming dirty car, then rinse, then soap wash. For rinseless wash, I pre-soak, then go right to using bucket of towels (Gary Dean) method. Never fully trusted the Big red sponge, but that’s a totally separate discussion.
Curious how you integrate rinseless solution into soap bucket wash process.

Ive read both but i personally will soak then rinse.


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