Rupes Mille

[Reuben Brumby]

What is the best way or circumstances to use a mille.

I'm building my arsenal and Im considering adding a Rupes mille.
I recently got to use one and I like how it cuts fast and doesn't stall.

My stall happy G9 was very frustrating to use on hard Volkswagen paint.

I want to know the best way to use it for 1 steps, and how to use it as a finishing tool for finishing in multi stage corrections.

I'm also considering a Rupes mark 3. I'm just concerned about stalling.


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[Coatingsarecrack]

I have know experience with either but the Mille is a direct drive where the machine powers the orbit and the spinning. The mark 3 will still stall although will be a lot less with proper technique.

Been thinking about direct drive and from research on here and AG forum most seem to prefer the flex. Nice thing about them too is if AG has a tool sale you can use on a flex but not a Rupes. I’m sure the Mille is a good machine though, probably personal preference.


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[Dan Tran]

What is the best way or circumstances to use a mille.

I'm building my arsenal and Im considering adding a Rupes mille.
I recently got to use one and I like how it cuts fast and doesn't stall.

My stall happy G9 was very frustrating to use on hard Volkswagen paint.

I want to know the best way to use it for 1 steps, and how to use it as a finishing tool for finishing in multi stage corrections.

I'm also considering a Rupes mark 3. I'm just concerned about stalling.


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I have both the LHR15 MK III and Mille.

The Mille + RUPES Mille Yellow Pad is a great start for a One Step/AIO. With the newly released UNO Protect, I am certain you find yourself impressed with the results. It didn’t me long to fall in love with the Mille. On a Porsche door panel, with even minor curves, the Mille doesn’t mess around. It powered through the job with way less effort than the LHR15.

The same Porsche the LHR15 did fine otherwise.

With both machines, I own both RUPES Coarse and Medium Wool Pads. Additionally, I have all the corresponding blue and yellow foam pads from RUPES as well.

In terms of liquids, I have Zephir and Keramik and absolutely adore them. While there are so many chemicals out now, I always fall back to these. They finish remarkably. Used it during a multi-step correction many times with no regrets.

The Mille is excellent at cleaning up edges while the LHR15 was capable of doing most of the heavy lifting. Personally, the LHR15 is a nice additional, but has a learning curve. If I was to train someone how to polish, I would teach on the Mille first, you don’t have to think or adjust. It just goes.

The LHR15 requires more technique. But it doesn’t stall as much as most will lead you to believe. Just remember it is a free spinning tool. Of course it will stall. What I like about the stalling is when I am going up against a dangerously thin body line, it will stall. And it is actually a protection to make me think to take it easy around these areas. Paint is so thin on these areas that one time, a clay mitt took off paint in these areas. Brand new BMW ALSO. So I guess interpret this however you want. It was a one time thing. Lesson learned.

Anyway,

When my first LHR15 + Mini got stolen, I first replaced it with a Mille and Nano iBrid. Then I added the LHR15 and mini back into my life. But during the time in between. The Mille and nano performed all the tasks that I wanted done. The free spinning tools have its place. But it was truly not necessary.

Best wishes! Hopes this helps.




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[Dan Tran]

I have know experience with either but the Mille is a direct drive where the machine powers the orbit and the spinning. The mark 3 will still stall although will be a lot less with proper technique.

Been thinking about direct drive and from research on here and AG forum most seem to prefer the flex. Nice thing about them too is if AG has a tool sale you can use on a flex but not a Rupes. I’m sure the Mille is a good machine though, probably personal preference.


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Here is my take on this one. The Flex truly is a Beast. But the Mille is an excellent choice, especially how it feels so familiar if you already know what a Bigfoot feels like.

Coming from a Bigfoot background, I LOVE my Mille. I’ll never forget the first time I used one. It was a no brainer. If your going to get the Mille, you ATLEAST need to try a small bottle of the Mille chemicals designed for it. It’s a dream to work with.


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[Mike Phillips]

What is the best way or circumstances to use a mille.




Anytime you want to do major correction work.

Anytime you want to avoid pad stalling when buffing cureved panels or buffing next to edges and raised body lines.


I'd recommend the 150mm or in U.S. terms, the 6" backing plate and then use the matching Mille pads and chemicals. The tool comes with both backing plates, my personal observation and the observations I've made of the people that take my detailing classes is the larger backing plate and pads are smoother to buff with.


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[Mike Phillips]

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When you took my Wax Shoppe Roadshow Class, did you test out the RUPES Mille?

Pictures and Comments- Roadshow Class at The Wax Shop (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-from-our-2-day-roadshow-car-detailing-classes/124093-pictures-comments-roadshow-class-wax-shop.html)


I brought them....


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As well as the BEAST and the CBEAST.


The Wax Shoppe class was a one-day class instead of my normal 2-day roadshow classes, so less time to spend on all the tools I brought, (which was a lot).












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[Reuben Brumby]

More...


When you took my Wax Shoppe Roadshow Class, did you test out the RUPES Mille?

Pictures and Comments- Roadshow Class at The Wax Shop (https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-from-our-2-day-roadshow-car-detailing-classes/124093-pictures-comments-roadshow-class-wax-shop.html)


I brought them....


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190810/3d46e4e5bf485b20ca53bc3623dfb303.jpg



As well as the BEAST and the CBEAST.


The Wax Shoppe class was a one-day class instead of my normal 2-day roadshow classes, so less time to spend on all the tools I brought, (which was a lot).












:)Yes I did. I liked it more than the Beast. I just didn't spend the time on that one as it was my was first time using polishers. I was trying to get my hands on as many as I could that day!

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[sudsmobile]

Anytime you want to do major correction work.

Anytime you want to avoid pad stalling when buffing cureved panels or buffing next to edges and raised body lines.


I'd recommend the 150mm or in U.S. terms, the 6" backing plate and then use the matching Mille pads and chemicals. The tool comes with both backing plates, my personal observation and the observations I've made of the people that take my detailing classes is the larger backing plate and pads are smoother to buff with.


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It seems counterintuitive that a bigger pad would be smoother. What's the explanation for that?

[MarkD51]

I've kicked around such for a while, of upping and refining my game, hopefully selling off a couple other tools I have, and buying the Rupes Mille.

I like many features of the Mille, and think they'd be a good personal fit for myself. Clockwise Rotation, comes equipped stock with a 29' Cord, and comes with two Backing Plates, 5" and 6". Since I have tons of 5.5" Pads, the Rupes seems like the way to go. Shorter throw than the Flex 3401, but the Mille is also said to be a little smoother, and quieter, and less prone to heat at the Head of the Tool.

Whether the Mille is as durable as the Flex, that might be debatable? I myself am not hard on Tools, I'm not a professional Detailer that such a machine would be getting hard workouts on a daily basis.

A couple questions that I have, and it is in regards to the Mille's attachment and coupling of the Backing Plate? Firstly, it appears that the Backing Plate on the Mille does not possess Gear Teeth like the 3401, is this correct?

Secondly, I believe I remember mention (by Mike Phillips) when he showcased the Flex 3401VRG in a video, that there is a Felt Ring on the 3401's Shroud that needs periodic Lubrication with a grease, correct? Is this also true of the Mille? I'm guessing no.

Is the Backing Plate of the Mille in constant contact with the Shroud like the Flex 3401? Or is there space?
TIA

[TTQ B4U]

My suggestion is to also look at the Flex 3401. I'll outline more later when I have time but I've also left some reviews over under the Rupes Forum Section. Long story short, the Flex has proven itself more of a "beast" in terms of reliability thus if you're going to use it a lot, I'd go Flex. I love my Mille as it's smooth for sure but I have had a couple issues with it and I question it's long term reliability.

[PEAD19]

My suggestion is to also look at the Flex 3401. I'll outline more later when I have time but I've also left some reviews over under the Rupes Forum Section. Long story short, the Flex has proven itself more of a "beast" in terms of reliability thus if you're going to use it a lot, I'd go Flex. I love my Mille as it's smooth for sure but I have had a couple issues with it and I question it's long term reliability.

Thanks for the info, and looking forward to hear more when you have time. I am close to buying the new upgraded 3401 supa beast.

[MarkD51]

Well, who could pass up a great sale today with 25% off and free shipping over $100.

So, I just ordered fifteen 5.5" Rupes Mille Foam Polishing Pads.

So, as Doctor Emmet L. Brown in "Back to the Future" once said, "Do you know what this means?!"

Yep, it means I am going to buy a Rupes Mille Polisher! (Hey, you only go round once!)

I don't need the Mille Polisher right this minute, but I'll buy all piecemeal eventually and go with a complete Rupes System.

Of course I'll also try all the Rupes Mille Polishes specified for this Tool and Pads.

[fightnews]

What is the best way or circumstances to use a mille.

I'm building my arsenal and Im considering adding a Rupes mille.
I recently got to use one and I like how it cuts fast and doesn't stall.

My stall happy G9 was very frustrating to use on hard Volkswagen paint.

I want to know the best way to use it for 1 steps, and how to use it as a finishing tool for finishing in multi stage corrections.

I'm also considering a Rupes mark 3. I'm just concerned about stalling.


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The mark 3 doesn't stall at all compared to any other long throw. It's quite impressive to me. I haven't used the mille but I use a flex and it is indispensable. The flex and the mark 3 are the dream team. The flex has a learning curve and its easier to get used to if you use the 5.5 hybrid pads.

The millie polishes are worth mentioning they are also impressive. I use them on the flex. They're made for forced rotation. They don't work as well on the long throw.

[WRAPT C5Z06]

I'm not a fan of these shorter stroke gear driven polishers. While they vibrate less than a Flex 3401, they will jerk you around worse. Strange, I know, but this is my opinion. Mark III 15 all day long. Learn the correct technique and it won't stall(within reason). With a long throw, you DO need at least a mini 3" polisher. An iBrid style polisher if you're really looking to fine tune. With a gear driven, sometime you only need that tool, but it's best to have a 3" mini as well.

[MarkD51]

I'm not a fan of these shorter stroke gear driven polishers. While they vibrate less than a Flex 3401, they will jerk you around worse. Strange, I know, but this is my opinion. Mark III 15 all day long. Learn the correct technique and it won't stall(within reason). With a long throw, you DO need at least a mini 3" polisher. An iBrid style polisher if you're really looking to fine tune. With a gear driven, sometime you only need that tool, but it's best to have a 3" mini as well.

Not sure how that could be with slightly smaller orbital stroke of the Rupes Mille? That they'll jerk you around more?

Is it because "possibly" the Mille trades and compensates with higher rotation speeds for the smaller stroke? Just asking?

Wouldn't the long stroke Tools by Rupes and others, at 15mm and 21mm be even much worse in this regard?

Not saying that what you say isn't true, because after studying into the Rupes Mille System, they appear to acknowledge this, and have formulated specific Pads, Polishes and Comoounds to team with the Mille to make the machine easier to use, with smoother operation.

Have you experienced the Mille with their specific House Pads and Polishes?